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1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said:

expect admonishment from Amati shortly:)

No admonishment - but FL is definitely not closing. As with quite a few dealerships it ends up that there is more wood than any workshop could use in a few centuries. Storage space in central London is hardly cheap so...

A lot of the wood has passed through a few hands before FL - the keen eyed will recognise quite a few workshop marks. There is even some wood from Hills in there.

Hope that helps!

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4 minutes ago, Kim852 said:

The Kittel bow is by Kittel or by Knopf 

or are they the same person?

Knopf as well as Bausch made and supplied some bows or parts of bows to Kittel as far as I am aware. Kittel of course also made his own bows.

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1 minute ago, Shelbow said:

Knopf made and supplied some bows or parts of bows to Kittel as far as I am aware.

Is it the same as the bows from Vuillaume workshop?

I found it hard to understand what “A VIOLIN BOW BY NICOLAI KITTEL, MADE BY HEINRICH KNOPF” means

It seems the auctioneer is not quite sure who made the bow 

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20 minutes ago, Kim852 said:

Is it the same as the bows from Vuillaume workshop?

I found it hard to understand what “A VIOLIN BOW BY NICOLAI KITTEL, MADE BY HEINRICH KNOPF” means

It seems the auctioneer is not quite sure who made the bow 

It is probably a similar ish situation as the Vuillaume workshop but I'm not 100% sure if  ALL the bow makers for Vuillaume were working internally or not. Perhaps a more knowledgeable forum member can comment?

I read this as the auctioneer saying this is a Bow made by Knopf but supplied to and sold / branded by Kittel. Many makers had instruments or bows made for them by other people. Sometimes these items are created in their own in house workshop other times they are supplied by external people.

So the reality is pretty much as per the description.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Shelbow said:

It is probably a similar ish situation as the Vuillaume workshop but I'm not 100% sure if  ALL the bow makers for Vuillaume were working internally or not. Perhaps a more knowledgeable forum member can comment?

I read this as the auctioneer saying this is a Bow made by Knopf but supplied to and sold / branded by Kittel. Many makers had instruments or bows made for them by other people. Sometimes these items are created in their own in house workshop other times they are supplied by external people.

So the reality is pretty much as per the description.

 

 

It makes more sense to me - made by Knopf but stamped/sold by Kittel 

the estimate is a bit ridiculous 

one can buy a dozen of Knopf bows made /stamped by Knopf 

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15 minutes ago, Kim852 said:

It makes more sense to me - made by Knopf but stamped/sold by Kittel 

the estimate is a bit ridiculous 

one can buy a dozen of Knopf bows made /stamped by Knopf 

It's gold mounted with a tortoiseshell frog, I believe this would denote it as being of the highest quality bow / stick. You would not gold mount the bow otherwise.

I'm sure some bow experts on here can shed more light on things though.

 

 

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On 10/7/2021 at 11:34 AM, Shelbow said:

Knopf as well as Bausch made and supplied some bows or parts of bows to Kittel as far as I am aware. Kittel of course also made his own bows.

It seems that Kittel had a larger workshop where employees like H.Knopf made bows according to his models, and probably in division of Labour. This could mean that sticks and frogs/ mounts were made by different specialists.

As a starting point the Cozio essay is informative:

https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/cozio-carteggio/nikolai-kittel/
 

I was wondering about the extraordinary price, too, but obviously Kittel’s bows weren’t meant as playing bows for ordinary musicians in the first place but as a sort of luxury artifacts for the Russian nobles, and the estimate probably reflects this.

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21 minutes ago, Shelbow said:

Amati auction now up

UK) Amati - October 22nd - November 3rd (2021) - Specialist Instruments - https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1082-amati-specialist-3rd-november/detail

Thanks Shelbow,

I can't speak for other auction houses, although I suspect it might be the same, but this is the first almost-normal auction we have had since the pandemic kicked off. It feels good to get back to some semblance of normal. A lot of the clients that we have seen over the last few months have been frustrated by not finding it easy to sell lately, so estimates should be rather fun. 

There's another thread on how auctions might cope post-Brexit in London. I think - and pray fervently - that we should be fine. I have popped abroad a fair bit (and everything is abroad now) and it is almost like the old days... with just a lot more paperwork on our side to pick up at the end of it.

My general, meandering post-auction release thoughts are... this auction, after a 20 month lacuna is probably the new 'normal', we have done our best our side, but it will be interesting to see how it goes.

Best wishes to all,

Jamie

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8 hours ago, Shelbow said:

Amati auction now up

UK) Amati - October 22nd - November 3rd (2021) - Specialist Instruments - https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1082-amati-specialist-3rd-november/detail

Plenty of lots to browse.  Only thing I'm sure of so far is that Lot 225 can't possibly be the property of a number of politicians I could name...........  :ph34r: :lol:

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