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4 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

If you make a Frankenfiddle from various bits of violin out of your scrap box, all the parts are a different colour. For the common DIY operative it would seem easiest to strip all parts of varnish, and do the whole instrument with a couple of coats of polyurethane, so that it has a uniform finish everywhere (not recommended of course)

Ooh ooh, polyurethane Frankenfiddle! Round up the usual suspects! ( and not a single slanderous J. Juzek comment in the entire thread!)

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20 hours ago, ChicagoDogs said:

 Is it possible that the purfling corners used to look quite a bit better, and then the sanding (and possibly scraping?) removed the outer portion that had been more carefully finished and completed, leaving only a lower part of the grooves without well-executed miters? 

I could see this happening if the bee stings were placed in a groove growing increasingly shallow as it extends out, or if someone just sanded down the plate corners more heavily than other areas. 

I doubt it.  That is what happens without a real violin maker looking over one's shoulder while working.  What happens is we go to cutting the purfling channel and just hope it turns out o.k. later on.  The shaping of the corners is just not having enough confidence and a good eye to keep going with the knife assuming the garland/blocks along with ribs that were shaped and thinned right to begin with - been there before.

I'm sure bee stings could of been among the thoughts of that maker but again, no training, eye or confidence to proceed.

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On 7/23/2020 at 8:53 AM, Brad Dorsey said:

The detail that suggests amateur American most strongly to me is how blunt the purfling corners are.

I agree with this.  It looks like the first or second attempt by a beginner.  Even trade fiddles that had different people specializing in certain opperations wouild have better purfling miters.

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On 7/23/2020 at 7:11 AM, jacobsaunders said:

I guess that would be unusual from anywhere, and would beg the question if all the bits originally belonged together.

To the others; If I suggested that the violin was junk, and is therefore probably American, I would get crucified on this forum as a racist.

What's your view on Canadians?:ph34r:

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On 7/23/2020 at 8:53 AM, Brad Dorsey said:

The detail that suggests amateur American most strongly to me is how blunt the purfling corners are.

Could be, but there have been amateur makers in most parts of the world. I suspect that you and I mostly run across American amateur work, so presumptions based on what we are most exposed to may come into play.

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14 hours ago, Johnmasters said:

I agree with this.  It looks like the first or second attempt by a beginner.  Even trade fiddles that had different people specializing in certain opperations wouild have better purfling miters.

Traditionally, most American makers 1st or 2nd attempts have been much worse than this!!, Maybe not those that went to schools to learn, but I'm thinking of self taught amateurs.

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On 7/24/2020 at 7:18 AM, uncle duke said:

I doubt it.  That is what happens without a real violin maker looking over one's shoulder while working.  What happens is we go to cutting the purfling channel and just hope it turns out o.k. later on.  The shaping of the corners is just not having enough confidence and a good eye to keep going with the knife assuming the garland/blocks along with ribs that were shaped and thinned right to begin with - been there before.

I'm sure bee stings could of been among the thoughts of that maker but again, no training, eye or confidence to proceed.

Agreed.  To me, I can't imagine this anything but amatuer American.  Sure, there are amateurs elsewhere, but there seems to be a characteristic look to American amateur fiddles.  I don't see the Mirecourt rib set, (not to mention birds eye??), it looks totally amateur American to me. It looks like someone "only" read "A" book and went for it.  

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