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It’s very skillfully carved, but I think it’s a tough sell for most people. There’s also some distracting edge damage on the lower treble bout that is hard to ignore.

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I remember, when I was about 13 or 14 years old, some Australian friend/customer of my father (there was quite a lot of them) found my father a new viola customer. He was a wealthy viola playing pig farmer down there. He said, “yes Wilf, I would love a viola, but could you, instead of the scroll, carve a pigs head for it?” There followed a couple of seconds silence, and I was expecting some sarcastic remark like “oh, it’s for your wife then is it?” but I was rather disappointed since all he said was “I would rather not”

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Lion heads on old German/Austrian instruments are generally accepted, but I think most people still prefer the ones with normal scrolls.

Gamba and d'amore players probably are the ones that might actually prefer some other carving.

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Well, the maker had some "fantasia" on his head...  the sound box is very nice. The head explains why it is in an auction, and not with a good dealer.

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I have yet to see a carved scroll on an instrument which also produces a quality sound. Was there ever a time when they were popular with professionals?

This could be the exception, however the market for them is small and at that price point tiny.

 

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9 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

I remember, when I was about 13 or 14 years old, some Australian friend/customer of my father (there was quite a lot of them) found my father a new viola customer. He was a wealthy viola playing pig farmer down there. He said, “yes Wilf, I would love a viola, but could you, instead of the scroll, carve a pigs head for it?” There followed a couple of seconds silence, and I was expecting some sarcastic remark like “oh, it’s for your wife then is it?” but I was rather disappointed since all he said was “I would rather not”

A bad-ass wild boar with tusks and a wicked smile would be fine company for some of the lions etc. on Susanne Küster's site :-).

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IMHO, that carved head resembles the kid who played Damian in the original The Omen movie.  It gives me the creeps. 

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11 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

I remember, when I was about 13 or 14 years old, some Australian friend/customer of my father (there was quite a lot of them) found my father a new viola customer. He was a wealthy viola playing pig farmer down there. He said, “yes Wilf, I would love a viola, but could you, instead of the scroll, carve a pigs head for it?” There followed a couple of seconds silence, and I was expecting some sarcastic remark like “oh, it’s for your wife then is it?” but I was rather disappointed since all he said was “I would rather not”

There was an old guy in W. North Carolina who carved a ram head for scrolls, complete with "ole ram" branded on the back.

I would be tempted, if I had the fiddle and players complained about the carved head consistently, to simply carve a new scroll for the instrument and make sure that the original head went with it and was prominently mentioned in the certificate. 

Also , Dave Birkedahl made a viola that had an evil, scarey demon for the head. The owner, after numerous attempts to have a replacement scroll carved, simply put a small cloth bag with a drawstring over the offending head.

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Things like this may have been loved by the original owner, but can be a complete turn off for anyone else.

The head on this looks nicely carved, most times you can't even say that. A lot can carve a scroll, which looks something like a scroll, not so many can carve a head or face well. I have seen some haunting attempts over the years, haunting I tell you.

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I know this is a dumb question. But can the value of the violin be improved if a replica scroll is grafred by removing the head part alone.

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3 minutes ago, Yogic said:

I know this is a dumb question. But can the value of the violin be improved if a replica scroll is grafred by removing the head part alone.

Perhaps if it is done by the maker himself. But they would probably replace the whole neck.

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2 hours ago, Yogic said:

I know this is a dumb question. But can the value of the violin be improved if a replica scroll is grafred by removing the head part alone.

I can't say that the value would be improved, but the saleability might be, and yes, no graft, just carve a new scroll.

But since the maker is dead, one of us would have to do it.

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On 7/7/2020 at 8:13 PM, Martin S said:

i happen to like well carved Lions heads and faces, they probably won't appeal to most players, but there's always someone that might prefer them, so I don't see what the big deal is avoiding them and denigrating them

Here's a nice one

 

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21 minutes ago, Rue said:

What has he been smoking? ^_^

The good stuff! He's just chillin taking it easy hanging out being a violin head and making sweet tunes!

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