GeorgeH Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, violinsRus said: And Brahms Requiem? Does that not connect with anyone anymore? Sure speaks to me... "Wie lieblich sind deine Wohnungen" ("How Lovely is Thy Dwelling Place") is almost unbearably beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violinsRus Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, GeorgeH said: "Wie lieblich sind deine Wohnungen" ("How Lovely is Thy Dwelling Place") is almost unbearably beautiful. Yes, and how! This chorus has been running through my mind all morning, and the pure flute voice is heavenly. I can understand that for a cellist who has to play the same note for several minutes just prior to this heavenly chorus, one could feel quite worn out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 20 hours ago, La Folia said: Strange. That's like going to the violin store and asking to buy a violin. They hand you one and you buy it. (But it can work that way, sometimes. ) Allegedly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 12:48 PM, martin swan said: Sorry? How do you know how I play when road testing a violin? If I didn't play at least to some extent like my clients then I wouldn't succeed in my business. My last Strad experience was comparing two Golden Period Strads with Veronika Eberle in the Philharmonie in Berlin. She is hardly a light player! Darn it, I wrapped it around a tree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 12:49 PM, PhilipKT said: Well, most of the people involved in that concert are dead, so I guess they kept their secret. The album cover shows everyone holding their instruments, I should look it up to see if the gentleman in question at least used the Strad for the photo, haha. Yes, they were sworn to secrecy. They knew that the Illuminati would come for them if they talked, you know, about the Juzek Master Arts. Shhh, drats, I heard a knock at the door... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 OMG...are the Illuminati part of this too??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Folia Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 52 minutes ago, Fossil Ledges said: Allegedly... Well, I did buy the first violin Carl Becker handed me. But not until I had played everything else in town. And on my recommendation, a friend of mine bought a violin from Becker on the spot, but he never even left the shop. So it can work, but if I were a soloist and the recipient of a white elephant, I think I would want to have some say, or maybe secretly substitute something better in public. I might say that I was the recipient of a loan of a Strad, without actually claiming to play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, La Folia said: Well, I did buy the first violin Carl Becker handed me. But not until I had played everything else in town. And on my recommendation, a friend of mine bought a violin from Becker on the spot, but he never even left the shop. So it can work, but if I were a soloist and the recipient of a white elephant, I think I would want to have some say, or maybe secretly substitute something better in public. Are you saying that you bought a Carl Becker from Carl Becker Junior? What an exciting experience that must’ve been. Very fine makers, father and son both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, violinsRus said: Yes, and how! This chorus has been running through my mind all morning, and the pure flute voice is heavenly. I can understand that for a cellist who has to play the same note for several minutes just prior to this heavenly chorus, one could feel quite worn out! Brahms has lovely melodies, and make no mistake. I don’t think anybody, not even Wagner, disagreed with that. Somebody wrote that each of them was too good a musician not to recognize the others genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matesic Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, PhilipKT said: Brahms has lovely melodies, and make no mistake. I don’t think anybody, not even Wagner, disagreed with that. Somebody wrote that each of them was too good a musician not to recognize the others genius. That's like saying Bach wrote great counterpoint - true but doesn't come close to explaining the thrill we lucky ones get. The Requiem was the first Brahms I performed as a treble in the chorus. Next came the second symphony as a second violin and I've been blown away at regular intervals ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, matesic said: That's like saying Bach wrote great counterpoint - true but doesn't come close to explaining the thrill we lucky ones get. The Requiem was the first Brahms I performed as a treble in the chorus. Next came the second symphony as a second violin and I've been blown away at regular intervals ever since. Yes on both counts. With Bach, as with Mozart and Haydn, the workings are in the background and all you experience is the music. I will never disagree with those who enjoy the Requiem or any other Brahms work, because we enjoy what we enjoy. But I have always found him dreadfully Dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Folia Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilipKT said: Are you saying that you bought a Carl Becker from Carl Becker Junior? What an exciting experience that must’ve been. Very fine makers, father and son both. I couldn't afford a Becker, but he sold me a wonderful violin that still had his hand in it. He made it possible for me to buy a really nice instrument at a price I could afford. And it was always a thoroughly enjoyable experience talking to him. He was always very patient with me, and I think he genuinely enjoyed contact with his customers. I miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, La Folia said: I couldn't afford a Becker, but he sold me a wonderful violin that still had his hand in it. He made it possible for me to buy a really nice instrument at a price I could afford. And it was always a thoroughly enjoyable experience talking to him. He was always very patient with me, and I think he genuinely enjoyed contact with his customers. I miss him. Yes, Carl Jr. was always very patient. I miss him too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Carl wrote: Stradivarius violin talks to you _______________________________________ OK, the orifice in my most nether regions talks, too. I do not yet possess the skill to emit multiple malodorous pages of Shakespeare with flawless diction, but you can be assured that I am working on this very aggressively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, David Burgess said: the orifice in my most nether regions talks, too. I bet that your orifice can't speak Italian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: I bet that your orifice can't speak Italian That's my next project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, David Burgess said: Carl wrote: Stradivarius violin talks to you _______________________________________ OK, the orifice in my most nether regions talks, too. I do not yet possess the skill to emit multiple stinky pages of Shakespeare with flawless diction, but you can be assured that I am working on this very aggressively. 10 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: I bet that your orifice can't speak Italian 7 minutes ago, David Burgess said: That's my next project. Put it all together, and there'll be a genuinely hellish Youtube reading of Dante in the works............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 With a bit more practice, I should be able to hit the high notes. (Notice that none of them are wearing pants, so that might be an important element of sound projection at the higher frequencies.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Merkel Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, David Burgess said: With a bit more practice, I should be able to hit the high notes. (Notice that none of them are wearing pants, so that might be important) which of them do you like the most? i like the one at 1:00 even though to my ear the note is a hair flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy jane Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bill Merkel said: i like the one at 1:00 even though to my ear the note is a hair flat 1:07 was our Olympia in Hoffman and was amazing (her acting and mannerism as well as her voice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bill Merkel said: which of them do you like the most? i like the one at 1:00 even though to my ear the note is a hair flat You might like Erna Sack, Ingeborg Hallstein and the excellent albeit dry Mado Robin. I don't remember her well but I think Erna Sack could hit a C7 full steam. Can't find Sack but here's Hallstein : Edited July 1, 2020 by Carl Stross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, David Burgess said: With a bit more practice, I should be able to hit the high notes. No doubt. You could start polishing your Italian with this : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMartin Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 In the hands of this duo on this recording this Strad talks to me of Beethoven: Beethoven Sonata #10 — Perez/Dumay I give equal credit to the pianist and assume (hope) the fiddle is the Harte once played by Francescatti, the only great player of the 1950's that I heard in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Carl Stross said: You might like Erna Sack, Ingeborg Hallstein and the excellent albeit dry Mado Robin. I don't remember her well but I think Erna Sack could hit a C7 full steam. Can't find Sack but here's Hallstein : This is wonderful. Plus she’s probably dancing around doing stage business while she sings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 10 hours ago, PhilipKT said: This is wonderful. Plus she’s probably dancing around doing stage business while she sings. She had great stage skill. Quite a few clips on YT. This one is absolutely brilliant : I often listen to her just to remind myself how proper singing used to sound : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2emHwSHzhto If you wonder why some music star never made a big soprano career, here's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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