Jim Bress Posted May 2, 2022 Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 I think it's very nice looking, but it depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go (sorry to be the dissenting voice). If you were making an entire instrument, I would say that you still have too much color in the wood. Your "flames" fade and reappear, but they do not move. The other thing I look for is the illusion of depth. Here's an idea of what I'm talking about from a MN search. This wood isn't even finished yet. Good varnish and application should enhance what you have from well prepared wood. https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/329780-intriguing-maple-back/&do=findComment&comment=610710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted May 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jim Bress said: I think it's very nice looking, but it depends how far down the rabbit hole you want to go (sorry to be the dissenting voice). If you were making an entire instrument, I would say that you still have too much color in the wood. Your "flames" fade and reappear, but they do not move. The other thing I look for is the illusion of depth. Here's an idea of what I'm talking about from a MN search. This wood isn't even finished yet. Good varnish and application should enhance what you have from well prepared wood. https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/329780-intriguing-maple-back/&do=findComment&comment=610710 Hi Jim, Thanks for the advice I totally understand what you mean. I definitely have some more exploring to do. I'm a way off starting or finishing an instrument but from the video you linked to I totally see what you're saying. I've also seen a few instruments where the flame seems to be inside the middle of the wood moving around, almost like it's trapped in a snow globe. I guess this is the optimum finish people are looking for? For the moment I might just roll with what I have for the scroll because I need to get back to bows and also start a better scroll, but I completely value your suggestions and will work on this for sure. I think I'm slowly starting to understand things a bit better and hopefully might get there in the future. I have to read over all the notes I've been given and try and take it to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted May 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I already started this one so I thought I'd post anyway. This one is slightly different order of application and revised pigment (for those of you that like red) Probably too heavy on the pigment still but I think I kinda like it better than the others. Back to the lab as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2022 I changed some bits with the oil in the system. I think this is less burnt and perhaps a bit more movement in the figure but maybe not so much depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violguy Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 Have you tried Acacia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted June 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, violguy said: Have you tried Acacia? No not so far. I have been very slow recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 I have been lazy and just messing around mixing colours for months but finally I just started to get on with it. This is part way through. The scroll is not good to use because I made loads of mistakes, but it's good to practice repairs on. I need to go back to bows and this dodgy scroll was kind of blocking my productivity because I had the fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shelbow Posted August 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 Finished it then got a bit bored and messed around with it a bit to make it look like it was on loan to a school Anyway this can go in junk box now. I need to continue on bows and make a different better scroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew tkinson Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Shelbow said: Finished it then got a bit bored and messed around with it a bit to make it look like it was on loan to a school Anyway this can go in junk box now. I need to continue on bows and make a different better scroll. Hello, I am impressed with your scrollery! I wish I was as precise! Did you use my patented egg yolk or milk based crispygolden pork pie pastry glaze type ground to get that colour and what kind of pastry is the scroll made from, is it a hot water pastry, wholemeal maple flour raised crust scroll? Seriously I think the scroll looks good enough to eat and the next one will be even better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 21 hours ago, Andrew tkinson said: Hello, I am impressed with your scrollery! I wish I was as precise! Did you use my patented egg yolk or milk based crispygolden pork pie pastry glaze type ground to get that colour and what kind of pastry is the scroll made from, is it a hot water pastry, wholemeal maple flour raised crust scroll? Seriously I think the scroll looks good enough to eat and the next one will be even better! Don't worry I am still extremely cavalier about it all I should try and make an edible scroll, that would actually be pretty cool. Many thanks, I will try and make things better for the next one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 If you make a whole cake you can invite us all over for tea. I just need a little leeway to book a flight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 @rue I'm gonna charter a cruise ship for a Maestronet cake party once I become a professional YouTuber 2060 party anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 Here is Bow #7 that I have made - Some kind of 17th Century short bow but with a screw mechanism. This time I wanted to use some better materials and put a bit more effort in to it. Everything was made in my bedroom as I have no workshop. Materials: Snakewood (Stick) Stabilised Maple (Frog and button) Weight: Somewhere around 44g (This is maybe a tiny bit heavier than a normal 17th century bow. Length: 595mm Verdict: Well this is my most accurate bow so far. I've not had anyone try it yet but it seems believable. Still a few things to sort out but getting better. My mortices and plugs were much better this time and the hairing itself is a lot better. If you have any comments let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted October 17, 2022 Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 It's very fetching. Need sound sample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted October 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Rue said: It's very fetching. Need sound sample. Merci I shall see what I can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Love the frog and button. My first thought was that it was some kind of stone, like agate. Until I read your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted October 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jim Bress said: Love the frog and button. My first thought was that it was some kind of stone, like agate. Until I read your post. Many thanks. Yes it is interesting stuff. I have a few different types / colours of this wood at home. Enough to make 40 or so frogs I think. It's impregnated with resin to stabilise it. It's really easy to work with but a bit brittle because the wood they use is obviously quite knotty. I bought most of it a years or so ago from either Ukraine or Russia, so I'm not sure if it's possible to get more at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 I made another bow. Normal size baroque violin bow. 54g. Stick is snake wood and the frog and button are resin stabilised maple. I had a bit of an issue with fitting the frog so it didn't go exactly as planned but I will just leave it for now as it's just a prototype anyway. Other than the frog it the most accurate and straight bow from a cross sectional point of view that I've made. Ill get someone to try it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Pretty! I'd say more, but I don't know enough to say more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 Lets see how it works today. If it works OK then I know what I need to adjust to make everything fit together a bit better for the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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