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On 6/23/2020 at 2:56 PM, Andres Sender said:

Except that in at least some instances the people who do this stuff don't realize their own incompetence and wonder what the fuss is all about.

I think that has good crossover with the fiddle realm. While there are some people who are really good at restoration or copying, there will always remain minor artifacts of their personal tastes and predjudices (in my opinion), or much more major artifacts from those less skilled and perceptive. Various artifacts of the human element always come into play, as long as humans are involved.

At one time, there was an "admired" team of copyists, who have done quite well financially. Early on, I could nail their stuff, because the eyes on their scrolls were all the same, regardless of what they were purporting to copy.

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I suppose there has to be a wee bit of distortion, purely due to the nature of the project. 

However, I can't see how it could be done "better". What's worse, potentially having a wee bit of distortion or letting the work rot?

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There are two different processes involved here: conservation (the process of stabilizing a work so that it does not develop further damage), and restoration (the process of making a work look less damaged, or undamaged).  The latter process is separate and optional, so 'distortion or rot' is really a false alternative.

You can't see how the work could be done better, but it took me very little time to find worrisome discrepancies between the two images.  The photos themselves might be at fault, or I might be delusional, or you might lack training in the sort of seeing that representational artists do.  I only took issue with the discrepancies because you offered the work as an example of things done right, because I can't agree.  If the pictures are a good representation, then the work was not very conservative and creates a changed impression of the artist's abilities.  To me that would not be doing that job "right".

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5 minutes ago, Andres Sender said:

...The photos themselves might be at fault,...

...or I might be delusional,

....or you might lack training in the sort of seeing that representational artists do. 

...

I vote for all three! :)

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14 hours ago, Andres Sender said:

There are two different processes involved here: conservation (the process of stabilizing a work so that it does not develop further damage), and restoration (the process of making a work look less damaged, or undamaged).  The latter process is separate and optional, so 'distortion or rot' is really a false alternative.

You can't see how the work could be done better, but it took me very little time to find worrisome discrepancies between the two images.  The photos themselves might be at fault, or I might be delusional, or you might lack training in the sort of seeing that representational artists do.  I only took issue with the discrepancies because you offered the work as an example of things done right, because I can't agree.  If the pictures are a good representation, then the work was not very conservative and creates a changed impression of the artist's abilities.  To me that would not be doing that job "right".

Andres do you mind sharing what your` worrisome discrepancies are `, just interested as an art lover !

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