fiddlecollector Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jun/22/experts-call-for-regulation-after-latest-botched-art-restoration-in-spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Slight Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 This is the problem between thinking you know what to do, and knowing what to do. More things have been ruined by those who think they know what to do, than by other means. I would also apply this to violins. Would be interesting to know, if this furniture restorer even has a qualification to work on any antique furniture. I can't think they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Slight Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 This one did not fare much better either. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/botched-spanish-statue-st-george-lovingly-unrestored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not telling Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 What about when some fool removed most of the penises from the Tree of Fertility in Tuscany (ca 1265)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, not telling said: What about when some fool removed most of the penises from the Tree of Fertility in Tuscany (ca 1265)? How emasculating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Yacey Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I blame the so called experts that choose the contractor to do the work. When the blind enable the blind, what do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avandesande Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Silly too when you consider how easy it is to reproduce images now... have them demonstrate a restoration on a copy and if acceptable go through with the real one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Slight Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, Bill Yacey said: I blame the so called experts that choose the contractor to do the work. When the blind enable the blind, what do you expect? Indeed, but this happens so often. I've seen several times, where people had excellent instruments and bows, but for reasons only known to them, allowed the husband, or friend of another orchestra member work on it, despite having no skills or training. Open seams glued with epoxy, using g-clamps with no padding on the varnished surfaces... Can't get the ferrule off a bow, so stick the frog in a mug of boiling water and leave it overnight, then find all the pearl and bits of the metal work have come off, the ferrule is now split from the swelling wood... Trying to fix slipping pegs by sanding the inside of peg holes, using a dowel with sandpaper on, in a drill... Having finished whatever butchery they were doing, but not noticed the sound post had fallen, and gave it back like that... And after this, it comes to the workshop to get fixed properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringcheese Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 See stuff like this all too often. There is a school of repair that I refer to as "If some glue is good, more must be better." Or often enough, even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 And because I had already copied them...for a quick comparison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 58 minutes ago, Bill Yacey said: I blame the so called experts that choose the contractor to do the work. When the blind enable the blind, what do you expect? Leave W*** D***** Productions out of this. Individual vandals simply can't compete with a multinational's budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane88 Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 or the sign in my local bike repair shop: Labor cost: 20$, 30& you watch, 40$ you help, 75$ you already fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, not telling said: What about when some fool removed most of the penises from the Tree of Fertility in Tuscany (ca 1265)? One wonders if the author of the collection of decorative designs that Tony Strad copied the engravings on the Greffulhe from had ever seen those birds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellopera Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rue said: And because I had already copied them...for a quick comparison: This is absolutely outrageous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Sender Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Except that in at least some instances the people who do this stuff don't realize their own incompetence and wonder what the fuss is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 The little old lady who restored Jesus wanted compensation - from the increased tourist traffic - to see her work. And she was going to donate all that money to the cause...which fine... So even if they don't know, they soon find out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 BTW, is this a case of any press is good press? What's better/worse: to be ignored/overlooked and fade away... ...or to have notoriety and remain current? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Here's a better photo, from The Guardian: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Don Noon said: That is such a classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, PhilipKT said: How emasculating! It's a virtual genital heist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, cellopera said: This is absolutely outrageous! How do you think I got this outrageous accent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossil Ledges Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 hours ago, stringcheese said: See stuff like this all too often. There is a school of repair that I refer to as "If some glue is good, more must be better." Or often enough, even worse. Ooh, Ooh, More glue! More glue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Rue said: Here's a better photo, from The Guardian: That can’t possibly be real? That can’t possibly be some guy saying, “I am an expert restorer and I think this is just what the original looks like.” ??? Right? Did somebody go to jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.DiLisio Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 That's why you don't hire a house painter to fix your plumbing. I would think a good art restorer would be able to remove the fresh layers of paint assuming the original is under there somewhere. Honestly, the second attempt is growing on me and shows great improvement from the first. Who knows, a third attempt could result in a masterpiece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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