Wurlizer number?

[Cordi]

Hi - New user here. I have a Van der Meer violin from 1905 with the number 2395 on a paper label on the treble side of the back. Could anyone tell me if this from a catalogue? Wurlitzer? Thanks

[Michael Darnton]

There are several companies that used that numbering system. Probably the only way to know if it's a Wurlitzer number is to start looking in their early catalogs, where violins were listed with their numbers.

[Michael Darnton]

Is this one yours? An oversized Maggini model if I remember right. I don't have a photo of the whole violin or of the interior's other side.  I just noticed the   1  0  0  E   stamped below the center. . . .

[Brad Dorsey]

Your number probably is a catalog number or inventory number put in by a violin shop.  I don't know which shop, but I can tell you that neither this number nor this violin appears in any of the catalogs reproduced in Roy Ehrhardt's "Violin Identification and Price Guide, Book 3."  If you could show us a picture of your number label, someone here might be able to identify the shop from the label typeface or format.

[MarkBouquet]

15 hours ago, Michael Darnton said:

......  I just noticed the   1  0  0  E   stamped below the center. . . .

Where you're seeing 100E, I'm seeing 1905....

[mysticpaw]

32 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said:

Where you're seeing 100E, I'm seeing 1905....

Me too !

[GeorgeH]

The "100E" is stamped into the wood below the label. Maybe "100E7."

[Michael Darnton]

Ok, me too now. 1905.

OP is AWOL.

[Cordi]

Here are a couple pix of the labels and writing impressed into the wood on my 1905 Van der Meer violin. Let me know if I should send bigger pix. Under the label on the right side (in the wood) it seems to read "FERDAN."  Any thoughts on that?

[GeorgeH]

16 hours ago, Cordi said:

Under the label on the right side (in the wood) it seems to read "FERDAN."  Any thoughts on that?

"Amsterdam"?

[Michael Darnton]

I remember the Wurlitzer numbers as being plain block numbers, not italic, and not that large.

[Alma]

My guess is what you see as FERDAM is the last half of AMSTERDAM

[Alma]

I have an A Nurnberger cello bow that has a number stamped on the underside of the stick just past the leather.  A dealer in Chicago said it looks like it might be a Wurlitzer stock number, which could be looked up in an online catalog.  I never found the online catalog.  Where/what is the Wurlitzer stock catalog? Was there such a thing?

[jacobsaunders]

5 minutes ago, Alma said:

My guess is what you see as FERDAM is the last half of AMSTERDAM

Do you play Scrabble?

[Alma]

Yes

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Alma

[Alma]

Oops, sorry--GeorgeH beat me to it.

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Alma

[PhilipKT]

Can you show pictures of the entire instrument?

[martin swan]

On 4/17/2020 at 4:02 PM, Michael Darnton said:

Is this one yours? An oversized Maggini model if I remember right. I don't have a photo of the whole violin or of the interior's other side.  I just noticed the   1  0  0  E   stamped below the center. . . .

Michael, you pulled a rabbit out of a hat and no-one clapped! Applause from me - you must have a fantastic archive.

[Cordi]

3 hours ago, PhilipKT said:

Can you show pictures of the entire instrument?

 

6 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

"Amsterdam"?

Definitely Amsterdam!

[Cordi]

Here are pix of the Van der Meer. My computer ate the pix of the scroll... And yes - it's extra long...

[PhilipKT]

2 hours ago, Cordi said:

Here are pix of the Van der Meer. My computer ate the pix of the scroll... And yes - it's extra long...

I think it’s lovely. 

[Cordi]

Thank you : ) Me too...