Cordi Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi - New user here. I have a Van der Meer violin from 1905 with the number 2395 on a paper label on the treble side of the back. Could anyone tell me if this from a catalogue? Wurlitzer? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 There are several companies that used that numbering system. Probably the only way to know if it's a Wurlitzer number is to start looking in their early catalogs, where violins were listed with their numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Is this one yours? An oversized Maggini model if I remember right. I don't have a photo of the whole violin or of the interior's other side. I just noticed the 1 0 0 E stamped below the center. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Your number probably is a catalog number or inventory number put in by a violin shop. I don't know which shop, but I can tell you that neither this number nor this violin appears in any of the catalogs reproduced in Roy Ehrhardt's "Violin Identification and Price Guide, Book 3." If you could show us a picture of your number label, someone here might be able to identify the shop from the label typeface or format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBouquet Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Michael Darnton said: ...... I just noticed the 1 0 0 E stamped below the center. . . . Where you're seeing 100E, I'm seeing 1905.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysticpaw Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said: Where you're seeing 100E, I'm seeing 1905.... Me too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 The "100E" is stamped into the wood below the label. Maybe "100E7." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted April 18, 2020 Report Share Posted April 18, 2020 Ok, me too now. 1905. OP is AWOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordi Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2020 Here are a couple pix of the labels and writing impressed into the wood on my 1905 Van der Meer violin. Let me know if I should send bigger pix. Under the label on the right side (in the wood) it seems to read "FERDAN." Any thoughts on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 16 hours ago, Cordi said: Under the label on the right side (in the wood) it seems to read "FERDAN." Any thoughts on that? "Amsterdam"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Darnton Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I remember the Wurlitzer numbers as being plain block numbers, not italic, and not that large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alma Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 My guess is what you see as FERDAM is the last half of AMSTERDAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alma Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 I have an A Nurnberger cello bow that has a number stamped on the underside of the stick just past the leather. A dealer in Chicago said it looks like it might be a Wurlitzer stock number, which could be looked up in an online catalog. I never found the online catalog. Where/what is the Wurlitzer stock catalog? Was there such a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Alma said: My guess is what you see as FERDAM is the last half of AMSTERDAM Do you play Scrabble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alma Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Yes Edited April 20, 2020 by Alma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alma Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Oops, sorry--GeorgeH beat me to it. Edited April 20, 2020 by Alma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Can you show pictures of the entire instrument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 4:02 PM, Michael Darnton said: Is this one yours? An oversized Maggini model if I remember right. I don't have a photo of the whole violin or of the interior's other side. I just noticed the 1 0 0 E stamped below the center. . . . Michael, you pulled a rabbit out of a hat and no-one clapped! Applause from me - you must have a fantastic archive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordi Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 3 hours ago, PhilipKT said: Can you show pictures of the entire instrument? 6 hours ago, GeorgeH said: "Amsterdam"? Definitely Amsterdam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordi Posted April 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Here are pix of the Van der Meer. My computer ate the pix of the scroll... And yes - it's extra long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Cordi said: Here are pix of the Van der Meer. My computer ate the pix of the scroll... And yes - it's extra long... I think it’s lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordi Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 Thank you : ) Me too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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