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Pfretzschner gold (?) mounted bow

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I’ve been this bow, stamped PREFTZSCHNER, with gold(?) button and frog, and D.R. P. stamped on the ferrule.

But it has a neck/head graft.

It is a good player, and the seller is asking US $ 1.100 for it.

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My thoughts are not good ... ;)

The button surely doesn't belong, the frog doesn't look like Pfretzschner, and there appears to be a serious lift behind the head which is still open enough to catch dust etc ...

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I have quite a nice collection of Brazilian bows already, like Lo Turco and Guido Pascoli, and some contemporary makers.

It just happened that this bow showed up, and I never crossed a Pfretzschner before.

 

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I agree completely with Martin. Frog and button don’t belong and have nothing to do with HR Pfretzschner, the stick is worthless in this state, no matter what the brand might be. So one would buy an anonymous worn gold frog for thousand. Sounds inflated somehow.

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I’ve seen a couple bows similar to that one. The mountings were the same color, but they were plated, not actually gold. One had that same D.R.G. stamp on the ferrule. It was in much better condition but it was a very weak stick. I think that one was stamped Albert Nurnberger. Its mountings were original to the stick. 
 

With the crude spline in the head and the misalignment issues, I’d stay away from that bow. 

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My mistake, I meant D.R.P. Stands for Deutsche Reichspatent, which was a patent institution in Western Germany. DRGM is another common brand from that period (Deutsches  Reichsgebrauchsmuster). It means that the bow had a patent registered with the government of Western Germany. 

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11 hours ago, The Violin Beautiful said:

My mistake, I meant D.R.P. Stands for Deutsche Reichspatent, which was a patent institution in Western Germany. DRGM is another common brand from that period (Deutsches  Reichsgebrauchsmuster). It means that the bow had a patent registered with the government of Western Germany. 

Nearly correct, but nearly only. "Western Germany" exists from the moment on when the "Reich" (Empire) ended, i.e. after 1945 resp. 1949.

So these marks are pointing always to a pre-war origin, not to Western Germany =FRG, which was a post war state.

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7 hours ago, Blank face said:

Nearly correct, but nearly only. "Western Germany" exists from the moment on when the "Reich" (Empire) ended, i.e. after 1945 resp. 1949.

So these marks are pointing always to a pre-war origin, not to Western Germany =FRG, which was a post war state.

You’re right. I was looking for information on that brand and got my dates wrong by looking at info on the other DRP that was a political party and was founded post-war. 

So to be more accurate, the DRP brand on the ferrule refers to a patent that would have been granted by the German government between the 1890s and 1952, when the DRP stamp was retired. 

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