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Dear all,

I am a newcomer but I would like to get a feedback from you, pros, about the instrument I recently bought.

It is not a cheapie (at all) but I simply fall in love of the baby.

I could not resist the gorgeous 1 piece mapple.

Unfortunately the sound post did fall during shipping so that i could not play it until now.

 

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One piece bottom rib, and a very nice looking instrument. I can’t begin to comment on what it is or when it was made it or where, But it looks nice to me. What information are you asking?

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simply your opinion about the instrument. Frankly I bought it because my daughter fell in love of it.

It is brand new. Actually, the label says it is from 2018.

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Aubert de Luxe bridge, Peter Infeld platin strings.

I got really angry when I received it to notice that the soud post was down. I was about to send it back. But we finally decided to keep it.

I am a bit afraid that the sound post could be a bit short which wold explain that it fell during shiping.

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18 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

How does it sound?  :)

 

18 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

How does it sound?  :)

With the sound post up or down?

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8 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

 

With the sound post up or down?

The wording of the OP implies that the post is back up now.  :P

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English is not my native language. Sorry for the approximate wording.

No, the sound post is not yet up. Need to find some time to get to the Luthier. Hope to do that next week.

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39 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said:

This OP is making the rounds, with seemingly different issues to complain about depending on where he's posting.

https://www.violinist.com/discussion/thread.cfm?page=3992

We seem to have had a plague of this lately, last year or so.  Weird.  :rolleyes:

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I'm bewildered by the complaint that the soundpost was down.  I thought that a good setup used minimal soundpost pressure for un-slacked strings? So if you loosened the strings for shipment, the post would fall and the recipient would have to go to a luthier to reset the post (or buy some tools and do it herself?). 

 

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12 hours ago, Jul said:

Need to find some time to get to the Luthier.

 you have to reset or replace the sound-post As Soon As Possible 

10 hours ago, Three13 said:

you might want to loosen the strings and wait to play it until it’s set properly.

exactly , to prevent any crack could be caused by the strings tension/forces , be careful !!!

good luck 


 

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Delabo posted:

On 3/8/2020 at 6:58 AM, Delabo said:

Should a violin be sent by parcel post with the post up or down ?

 

That's kind of what I was wondering about in my post. Up until 20 years ago, if you wanted a fiddle, you'd go to whatever pawnshops/music stores/violin shops/maker's workshops you knew about and buy something (or trade your Fender tube amp for somebody else's violin, which is how I got into strings). Nowadays, if you don't have much money, you have to work thru the net. If you have some experience with violins you can maybe find something that looks promising and it can be a win, though it's always a gamble. 

But for setup -- especially soundposts -- I don't see how this net stuff can really work. I don't doubt that maestros like David Burgess can set the post perfectly and ship the thing with strings slacked 2 whole steps down and it all works out, but when we buy stuff off ebay or reverb.com, that's not who we're dealing with. 

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Sometimes, you may have to ship a violin. This one travelled through Europe. Btw, the soudpost was actually too short by almost 1mm.

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5 hours ago, Jul said:

Sometimes, you may have to ship a violin. This one travelled through Europe. Btw, the soudpost was actually too short by almost 1mm.

So?

I had violins shipped over the ocean. No problem. Perhaps, at the point of origin the soundpost fit perfectly. I've had sound posts fall over. Have them reset. Or, if to suit your environmental conditions, have a new one cut and fit. No problem. 

I'm not sure why you're making a mountain over a molehill.

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I thought normal shipping procedures were to:

Loosen the strings in case the sound post falls

Put some protective material, like bubble wrap or styrofoam between the fingerboard and the belly and also under the tail piece

Fill the empty spaces in the case with cushioning material

Wrap the case in bubble wrap

Double box the case with cushioning material between the box containing the instrument and the outer box

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7 hours ago, Rue said:

So?

I had violins shipped over the ocean. No problem. Perhaps, at the point of origin the soundpost fit perfectly. I've had sound posts fall over. Have them reset. Or, if to suit your environmental conditions, have a new one cut and fit. No problem. 

I'm not sure why you're making a mountain over a molehill.

Absolutely agree with this entire reply, Rue. To the OP, if you want a perfectly tuned and setup instrument, purchase one from a shop. Otherwise, understand that shipping requires setup to be removed, or string tension reduced to avoid further problems. Had the violin arrived with setup removed completely, would you have seriously returned? Even if it showed up “perfect,” it should be taken to a luthier to double check for those that do not know how to inspect.

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8 hours ago, Rue said:

So?

I had violins shipped over the ocean. No problem. Perhaps, at the point of origin the soundpost fit perfectly. I've had sound posts fall over. Have them reset. Or, if to suit your environmental conditions, have a new one cut and fit. No problem. 

I'm not sure why you're making a mountain over a molehill.

 

1 hour ago, Michael H said:

Absolutely agree with this entire reply, Rue. To the OP, if you want a perfectly tuned and setup instrument, purchase one from a shop. Otherwise, understand that shipping requires setup to be removed, or string tension reduced to avoid further problems. Had the violin arrived with setup removed completely, would you have seriously returned? Even if it showed up “perfect,” it should be taken to a luthier to double check for those that do not know how to inspect.

[Holds up a couple of soundpost setters of differing designs, a soundpost retriever, a hellaciously sharp woodcarving knife, a soundpost gauge, and a business card with a slit cut in it.]  Learn to cut and set your own posts.  It's easy once you get used to doing it.   Here's a short description, there are lots more on line, and several Youtube videos to choose from.  :)

http://jcviolins.com/soundpost/

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6 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

 

[Holds up a couple of soundpost setters of differing designs, a soundpost retriever, a hellaciously sharp woodcarving knife, a soundpost gauge, and a business card with a slit cut in it.]  Learn to cut and set your own posts.  It's easy once you get used to doing it.   Here's a short description, there are lots more on line, and several Youtube videos to choose from.  :)

http://jcviolins.com/soundpost/

I know people who are brilliant in business or sales or whatever, but who are overwhelmed at the prospect of changing a light bulb. (I mean this literally.) And even dexterous people will likely maim a few sound holes while learning to set a sound post. Not to mention sharpening that razor sharp knife. Not everyone can, or should try DIY violin repair. Especially not on my violins!

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Every kid should learn, ie: be appropriately trained, to replace strings, set up a bridge and cut a sound post. They can be the envy of all their friends in the student orchestra!  I love repairing instruments in peace and despise the hocus pocus part of setup. However, think of all the famous folk who would have Sarconni look over their fiddle before a performance. 

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I was not complaining, just giving infos. The sound post was actually too small. the violin teacher of my daughter confirmed that. The seller agreed to send another one by mail. should take a couple of days i guess.

No big issue. For those who didn't understand my questioning, you may have noticed that i am not really an expert in that field. I am a rather poor violin player but my daughter is much better than me. This is her first higher level instrument. I was not really feeling confident. This is why I am asking some naive questions.

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