Evan Smith Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, jezzupe said: Everyone here knows how good Michael is, he one of the best of the best of the best, but he also acts like a textbook outrage culture ween who often times gives off an air of superiority to us more low brow types who use cuss words and stuff....SOMETHING WHICH BY THE WAY I am a firm believer that we should be abstaining from....NO CUSS WORDS HERE...do it for the children So you feel threatened by confident people? I'll bet you that he would do his absolute best to guide you or anyone else in the right direction (as he sees it, if you trust him) to the best of his ability, and answer any and all questions that you have, if it is approached with a bit of civility. I have never met, seen from a distance, talked to, publicly or privately, and I don't see "it" like you see "it",, I see a teacher,,,,,, I am a teacher, I deal with recovering drug addicts to help them get a grip on a new life, as in on a regular basis, as in work, expected to, people depend on me, I deal with fearful abused people on a regular basis, trying to give them an insight into a successful world that they don't know much about, and they are terrified to experience because they know they can't do it and they expect failure. I have worked with dozens of people learning to make violins, spending thousands of long wearing hours, days on end surrounded by people asking for help with something,,,,,,,,, till I am completely out of gas, exhausted beyond disccription. I reach a point where I don't have time for STUPID endless blather from arguing ungrateful belligerent,,,(excuse me Martain, COPY RIGHT INFRINGEMENT) KNUCKLE DRAGGING MORONS that are not making any attempt to anything useful but to stir the pot,,,. Or giving a continuous monologue on forums so we may understand exactly what is occurring in my current life according to their interpretation so I can understand what it is all about, and how to act on it. I just calmly look at the world around me and decide that,, We all have needs, We all are broken, Many are clueless about what to do about it,, Some get it, some don't, Some use endless word dancing around trying to gently make a point,,,or are they just trying to look smart,,,, I don't know and for me to pretend to know another mans heart would be foolish,,,, By their fruit,,,, Bananas ! I love them but they make me fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: So you feel threatened by confident people? I'll bet you that he would do his absolute best to guide you or anyone else in the right direction (as he sees it, if you trust him) to the best of his ability, and answer any and all questions that you have, if it is approached with a bit of civility. I have never met, seen from a distance, talked to, publicly or privately, and I don't see "it" like you see "it",, I see a teacher,,,,,, I am a teacher, I deal with recovering drug addicts to help them get a grip on a new life, as in on a regular basis, as in work, expected to, people depend on me, I deal with fearful abused people on a regular basis, trying to give them an insight into a successful world that they don't know much about, and they are terrified to experience because they know they can't do it and they expect failure. I have worked with dozens of people learning to make violins, spending thousands of long wearing hours, days on end surrounded by people asking for help with something,,,,,,,,, till I am completely out of gas, exhausted beyond disccription. I reach a point where I don't have time for STUPID endless blather from arguing ungrateful belligerent,,,(excuse me Martain, COPY RIGHT INFRINGEMENT) KNUCKLE DRAGGING MORONS that are not making any attempt to anything useful but to stir the pot,,,. Or giving a continuous monologue on forums so we may understand exactly what is occurring in my current life according to their interpretation so I can understand what it is all about, and how to act on it. I just calmly look at the world around me and decide that,, We all have needs, We all are broken, Many are clueless about what to do about it,, Some get it, some don't, Some use endless word dancing around trying to gently make a point,,,or are they just trying to look smart,,,, I don't know and for me to pretend to know another mans heart would be foolish,,,, By their fruit,,,, Bananas ! I love them but they make me fat. I only feel threatened by people who threaten me , I'm not sure where this statement is coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 General jet-cooling in order I think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 38 minutes ago, bkwood said: I don't care if folks want to have these conversations but I wish someone would start a new thread for them, and label it. I still click in this thread looking for for soundpost information. Silly me. This is one crazy circus, that goes through cycles. That doesn't bother me because I can think of know other place with the depth of knowledge that is willingly shared. Focused questions seem to work best. The great information seems to come in spurts. My method is to have a running word file on every topic of interest e.g., soundposts. As a good bit of information comes in I copy and paste it along with the author. Patterns arise and knowledge accumulates. I'm getting ready to transfer these files to onenote which seems a better vehicle for having everything in alphabetical order and the ability to easily cross reference things like necks and fingerboards. Cheers, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: I reach a point where I don't have time for STUPID endless blather from arguing ungrateful belligerent,,,(excuse me Martin, COPY RIGHT INFRINGEMENT) KNUCKLE DRAGGING MORONS that are not making any attempt to anything useful but to stir the pot,,,. Au contraire - honoured to be quoted by you .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Smith Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, David Burgess said: I participate on a wide variety of forums, including hot rods and motorcycles. From that, I am not so eager to assign disagreement with one's own views (including my own) to dim-wittedness. There might be a bit of understanding, I would never think nor believe that disagreement automatically means dimwitted,,,,never. Disagreement and healthy debate leads to greater understanding,, universally. It is a good thing. I think that problems arise when an assumption is made about a statement, and a stance is taken against,,, or for it by someone else, and a disagreement ensues,, but the assumption about what was meant in the first place is actually wrong. It actually happens a lot on forums. I watch as the defense comes instantly as if it was perceived that some one got up that morning just to take a shot as poor helpless me. Ah,,, if the world only revolved around lonely me.What makes it so comical is that often the perceived assault was in no way directed at any one. But like Michael pointed out, we get used to that sort of interaction, willingly or unwillingly, some do choose it, they thrive on drama,,,or some are stuck in situations that they cannot escape from it so easily, and they learn to react to it unknowingly,,, for the sake of survival. So then with the trained need for,,, and the ability to react,, it just happens out of habit. There is really no deliberate decision to treat people bad and "Kick some ass today" it just comes out as a mater of habit. I guess it could be beneficial to go through some role playing stament-question-answer-statement-debate-question scenario to give examples as to the pitfalls of modern forum commutation. Some people have a hard time face to face, not everyone communicates effectively, some are afraid, (I can be quite self conscience) and frequently things are just simply taken the wrong way. Though in the real world (MINE) it happens so rarely, when it does it really sticks out as rather strange. Here people snapping back seems to be common place at times,,, it comes in waves. Like the lunar cycle, thus the term "Lunatic" But you know all of this, we've talked about it before, you're a real smart guy,,,just kind of a dirty boy, which at times is a bit,,,,,um,,,,,,um,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 I've spent something like three decades around Jeffrey, and my opinion is that he's done a pretty fine job on both Meastronet, and at the Oberlin Restoration Workshop. But I am not as much of a whiner and complainer as some people, so that will need to taken into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Smith Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, jezzupe said: I only feel threatened by people who threaten me , I'm not sure where this statement is coming from? I don't understand it either,,, that's why I asked 29 minutes ago, martin swan said: General jet-cooling in order I think ... All is cool here,, woke up to more snow,,, AH, Drats! I have had enough!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: I don't understand it either,,, that's why I asked All is cool here,, woke up to more snow,,, AH, Drats! I have had enough!!!! good, go shopping NOW unless you're already prepped , there is a major THREAT happen right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: But you know all of this, we've talked about it before, you're a real smart guy,,,just kind of a dirty boy, which at times is a bit,,,,,um,,,,,,um,,,, Might we attribute that to my being a "preacher's kid"? Some preacher's kids were saints, but in the larger scheme of things, many more were trying to defy the belief that they couldn't possibly be any fun. Perhaps that's what "Alice Cooper" (another preacher's kid) was dealing with? Granted, excuses, excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, David Burgess said: Might we attribute that to my being a "preacher's kid"? Some preacher's kids were saints, but in the larger scheme of things, many more were trying to defy the belief that they couldn't possibly be any fun. Yes, excuses, excuses. I thought it was from huffin' horsepower and torque things over 150 get real religious with all kinds of cuss words mixed in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, jezzupe said: I thought it was from huffin' horsepower and torque things over 150 get real religious with all kinds of cuss words mixed in there Vehicles with 400 to 1000 horsepower can get pretty f'ing entertaining and challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Smith Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 10:38 AM, Evan Smith said: Vic,,,, Nice for you to have the honorable desire to clean up the net for us, I have many daughters and am horrified by the condition, and the availability of smut everywhere that we look, it almost feels like a disservice for them to be here. They are all self supporting decent outstanding people that contribute to society in a positive and enlightening way, doing service work for those that have a hard time getting a grip. The world can be confusing and challenging and lots of people just loose it, and hang on by a thread. I do not want to contribute to their failure, there are enough things to stumble upon already without me adding to the load over my butt hurt self. I apologize to you for what I said, but in a way I meant it,, I don't believe Morgana is a troll or in anyway stupid, she doesn't communicate in a way that is comprehensible to some people, but she is certainly not stupid, nor has she threatened anyone, she is TRULY WEIRD! Demanding that she be banned is unbelievably irresponsible and appears dictatorial and flat out disgusting. She's a bit strange, or shall I say not a clone of everyone else,,I get that,, She's ok in my book,,, I would like to meet her. So I have a problem, I like people, I like weird and different. I have always said if everyone I know got together in one spot, the variety would blow your mind. Be at peace with people, it makes life,,,,, Better. My previous thoughts to you gone, I apologize,,, we all could grow up a bit,, I think Evan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Smith Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, jezzupe said: good, go shopping NOW unless you're already prepped , there is a major THREAT happen right now. Are you really seeing things happening there, I have 3 kids in Marin county,,, Here, no masks, it's calm ,,, no runs on things yet,,, EXCEPT<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< The shelves in WALLY World are running out of MOVIES! Here in Idaho we just gonna kick back and watch the show! No Worries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 50 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: Are you really seeing things happening there, I have 3 kids in Marin county,,, That's nothin. I have four grandkids living in Hawaii, the San Francisco area, and Southern Ohio. Also sisters and grandkids living in the Seattle area. Hawaii would be my first concern, since it is a high tourist destination. Love my kids and grandkids. and I don't think any of us would wish for any of them to die. Mother-in-laws can be a very different story, But I don't recall wishing any of them to die, and I have been lucky enough to have had a couple of really cool ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, Evan Smith said: Are you really seeing things happening there, I have 3 kids in Marin county,,, Here, no masks, it's calm ,,, no runs on things yet,,, EXCEPT<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< The shelves in WALLY World are running out of MOVIES! Here in Idaho we just gonna kick back and watch the show! No Worries https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/meanwhile-costco-brooklyn-hoarding-begins not here but my bro lives in brooklyn, well I just suggest everyone prep up while the preppin's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, David Burgess said: Vehicles with 400 to 1000 horsepower can get pretty f'ing entertaining and challenging. Ho Li Shi!!! My Chinese friend often accompanies the ride....well assuming we all don't die from the plague we'll always have the 2022 Vette to look forward to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, jezzupe said: Ho Li Shi!!! My Chinese friend often accompanies the ride....well assuming we all don't die from the plague we'll always have the 2022 Vette to look forward to Yup, I've often asked myself if I would rather check out at the peak of enjoyment, or try to massage it along for another 40 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Holmes Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 Hello all; This thread has gone well outside it's original subject. Time to shut it down. I appreciate the support voiced by a number of you, and actually don't mind the criticism voiced by those members who see things differently. In the end, this board is what the members make of it. Best to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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