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F-holes without notches

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If I might ask a more general question about notchless f holes (which I have never seen before): am I right in thinking the notches play no role in the response of the instrument, and are just there to cue us players into where to position the bridge? Thanks!

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6 hours ago, duane88 said:

Possibly the f-holes were re-cut, removing the orig. notches.

 

Good point, I haven’t thought of that.

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6 hours ago, Mampara said:

Looks like the purfling is missing too? More photos of the whole instrument would be helpful.

There is purfling, it's just barely visible in the darker parts. I attach some more photos form the auction website. But speaking generally not about this particular violin, were notchless f-holes popular at some point? I couldn't find too many photos.

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The f holes look really chunky, they could have been reworked and the nicks being lost that way. It would be good to get some opinions from experienced members here.

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On 1/30/2020 at 7:01 PM, hannaz said:

Are f-holes without notches like the one of the photo characteristic of any particular region or time period?

Usually characteristic for the school of careless violin butchery, like was suggested before. Always timeless.;)

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3 hours ago, Blank face said:

Usually characteristic for the school of careless violin butchery, like was suggested before. Always timeless.;)

Pity, I hoped was an interesting feature

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6 hours ago, Blank face said:

Usually characteristic for the school of careless violin butchery, like was suggested before. Always timeless.;)

Not a typical f-hole but notches on this style of sound hole would not look right. I do think notches improve the look of ff-style soundholes. 

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46 minutes ago, Ernest Martel said:

Not a typical f-hole but notches on this style of sound hole would not look right. I do think notches improve the look of ff-style soundholes. 

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Those soundholes resemble a beginner's mistake, failing to make the sound holes large enough to insert a soundpost, and then trying to make something semi-"artistic" out of correcting the mistake.

I will also suggest that mice enlarging ff-holes in order to establish a happy home inside stringed instruments (also a possibility) have at times done a more artistic job. :)

Typically though, the mousies will only enlarge one ff-hole, and then rely on the artistry of a luthier to make both match. :(:lol:

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