Newfiddleguy Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I got this today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Sorry to say that for me the label has nothing to do with the violin ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Does it have any corner blocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClefLover Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Appears to be a lower grade cottage industry instrument with a surprising string combination: Kaplan E string with Obligatos. A Wittner tailpiece would not be my choice either. I have never seen a Barbe in person, but I do not think there is any resemblance. Maybe if I squint at the scroll profile I can see a French chin. The fluted ffs confuse me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfiddleguy Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said: Does it have any corner blocks? Yes it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I like the oval hole Gibson L-4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 56 minutes ago, ClefLover said: Appears to be a lower grade cottage industry instrument with a surprising string combination: Kaplan E string with Obligatos. A Wittner tailpiece would not be my choice either. I have never seen a Barbe in person, but I do not think there is any resemblance. Maybe if I squint at the scroll profile I can see a French chin. The fluted ffs confuse me. One should always be wary of fluted fs on revarnished fiddles ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) A Gibson hiding among the guitars!!! Anyway - it's rather pretty. If it sounds good...win-win! Edited January 23, 2020 by Rue Martin got in the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palousian Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, ClefLover said: Appears to be a lower grade cottage industry instrument with a surprising string combination: Kaplan E string with Obligatos. A Wittner tailpiece would not be my choice either. Why is that? I play that exact combo as a matter of fact... and I have a Wittner tailpiece. Very sweet sound, great for recording, not unlike gut, and if you play open e strings (fiddle music, baroque music...), it doesn't whistle, just as advertised. So, curious why this is so surprising for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClefLover Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, palousian said: Why is that? I play that exact combo as a matter of fact... and I have a Wittner tailpiece. Very sweet sound, great for recording, not unlike gut, and if you play open e strings (fiddle music, baroque music...), it doesn't whistle, just as advertised. So, curious why this is so surprising for you. Obligatos are dark and bold, Kaplans are stark and brilliant, in my opinion. Wittner tailpiece wouldn’t be my choice because they have fine tuners and belong to the dark side (cellos). This is my opinion, like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, palousian said: I play that exact combo as a matter of fact... and I have a Wittner tailpiece. Have you opened your case lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Cramer Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Could someone please explain what "fluted ffs" (or "fluted fs") are? Am guessing it refers to the f-holes, but don't understand what "fluted" means. Thanks and sorry to ask a dumb question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Al Cramer said: Could someone please explain what "fluted ffs" (or "fluted fs") are? Am guessing it refers to the f-holes, but don't understand what "fluted" means. Thanks and sorry to ask a dumb question. Not dumb at all. It refers to the wings. A fluted ff-wing is an f-hole wing with a concavity cut into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palousian Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 4:50 PM, Violadamore said: Have you opened your case lately? Every day. Should I expect a surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, palousian said: Every day. Should I expect a surprise? Just checking. Around violin enthusiasts, one can't be too careful. I expect that, sooner or later, we're gonna have a "What is this?" thread pop up next to a "My fiddle's been stolen!", and the two will combine as antiparticles, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Violadamore said: I expect that, sooner or later, we're gonna have a "What is this?" thread pop up next to a "My fiddle's been stolen!", and the two will combine as antiparticles, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Cramer Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Violadamore, thanks for for your explanation of fluted f-holes. I did some googling and think I now understand what you wrote. I read through a great 2010 thread in Maestronet where people like Don Noon were trying to figure out how much the fluting affects the sound. (Results were inconclusive). But at least I understand Martin Swan's observation On 1/23/2020 at 4:34 PM, martin swan said: One should always be wary of fluted fs on revarnished fiddles ... Fluting means more hands-on-work, so factory instruments wouldn't have it but individually made axes might; so if you took a factory job and carved some fluting prior to revarnishing, people would think it more valuable. Have I got this right? It is difficult for me to believe that anyone involved with this noble instrument would stoop to such shenanigans, but I am beginning to understand that scams are an ancient and revered part of the violin biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 Where violins are concerned, shenanigans abound, which is a big part of the fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palousian Posted January 26, 2020 Report Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Violadamore said: I expect that, sooner or later, we're gonna have a "What is this?" thread pop up next to a "My fiddle's been stolen!", and the two will combine as antiparticles, so to speak. Nope, she's comfy in her usual spot. But Clef Lover got me thinking about going back to the Amber e... hm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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