scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 3d printed the Kreisler del Gesu scroll. Came out pretty nicely. I guess it is really a "filius" scroll. It is nice to see this in three dimensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 cool I want one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 I think that casts of scroll and plates of good instruments could be commercially available. I remember Bissolotti had a plaster cast of a Strad scroll in his bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, MANFIO said: I think that casts of scroll and plates of good instruments could be commercially available. I remember Bissolotti had a plaster cast of a Strad scroll in his bench. I totally agree with this. Having a 3d model to assist your carving is a great help vs. pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advocatus Diaboli Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 That’s actually an early Giuseppe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Advocatus Diaboli said: That’s actually an early Giuseppe. When did dad take over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANFIO Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Cast instruments could be collapsible, including the ribs. it would be such a great thing to have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, scordatura said: When did dad take over? Filius Andreae scrolls show up on Del Gesus after his retirement and recoevry around 1732, and last until 1740. I think this is the 1741 Kreisler, not the 1733. Did you make this? It's wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Three13 said: Filius Andreae scrolls show up on Del Gesus after his retirement and recoevry around 1732, and last until 1740. I think this is the 1741 Kreisler, not the 1733. Did you make this? It's wonderful. It is the 1730 or 1733 or whatever date the one at the LOC is. So a 1732 date it could be filius. Roger Hargrave in his article on the Kreisler however does not mention filius in his description of the scroll. I am not aware of another GDG that has Kreisler's name associated with it. I did make it or in reality the 3D printer made it from an STL mesh file. So it is a plastic reincarnation of good old Giuseppe. A bit strange isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGo Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, scordatura said: A bit strange isn't it? Sure it is... in that "toxic green" color :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, HoGo said: Sure it is... in that "toxic green" color :-) I know that the green color is not my first choice. For the next one I want to do red, brown or orange. The only problem is I am trying to stay low maintenance with my friend who is using his expensive 3D printer to render my parts. That green is what was loaded in the machine. So far it is free. I want to keep it that way if I can. It took 6.5 hours to print. After all I could use some spray paint to make it more "real". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McClean Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Wouldn't white be better- closer to the colour of the maple you'll be carving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Martin McClean said: Wouldn't white be better- closer to the colour of the maple you'll be carving? The white is not maple colored but closer than green! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Just found a 1741 the so called Hart/Kreisler from 1741. https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/property/?ID=40551 I heard somewhere that Kreisler owed taxes to the us Gov. That is what he donated the 1733 to the LOC. Not sure if that is true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCockburn Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 Is this done from a 3-D scan of the original, or constructed somehow from photos? Sorry if this is a silly question. I know very little about this technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, JohnCockburn said: Is this done from a 3-D scan of the original, or constructed somehow from photos? Sorry if this is a silly question. I know very little about this technology. Scan. Photos are possible but difficult to get this level of accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 Would you be able to share the STL file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Urban Luthier said: Would you be able to share the STL file? I'm sorry I cannot share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCockburn Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 21 hours ago, scordatura said: Scan. Photos are possible but difficult to get this level of accuracy. You must be a VIP if they let you do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, JohnCockburn said: You must be a VIP if they let you do that! No just persistent. When I visited the Library of Congress last summer, I was treated as a nobody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've found the folks at the Smithsonian to be a little easier to deal with - kudos for getting permission to scan it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Three13 said: I've found the folks at the Smithsonian to be a little easier to deal with - kudos for getting permission to scan it! That is what I have heard. My next D.C. trip will be at the Smithsonian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I've never dealt with their musical instruments department, but my experience with the numismatic collection have always been wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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