Stainer violin (genuine ?)

[Mick healey]

Can anybody help with the authentication on this violin ...it’s in pretty bad shape but if it’s genuine it may be valuable ... thanks for any info offered 

[Wood Butcher]

You have a late 19th or early 20th century mass-produced instrument. It is not worth a great deal I'm afraid.

[Mick healey]

Gutted haha ok thankyou anyways ...how can you tell if it was genuine? 

[jacklinks]

23 hours ago, Wood Butcher said:

You have a late 19th or early 20th century mass-produced instrument. It is not worth a great deal I'm afraid.

Is it safe to save that any that are stamped “Stainer” are definitely not real? I’ve always thought the stamped ones were the mass produced ones sold by the thousands in catalogs. But I know that there were a lot of mass produced non-stamped ones too. But anyway, does the stamp automatically rule it out?

[Mick healey]

I’ve no idea tbh...I know not one thing about violins I’m afraid

[Wood Butcher]

1 hour ago, jacklinks said:

Is it safe to save that any that are stamped “Stainer” are definitely not real? I’ve always thought the stamped ones were the mass produced ones sold by the thousands in catalogs. But I know that there were a lot of mass produced non-stamped ones too. But anyway, does the stamp automatically rule it out?

No genuine Stainer has the name branded on.
This type of branding with either a fire brand, or name stamp is often seen on various instruments of dubious quality, emanating from Germany and Bohemia.
Stainer, Hopf, Vuillaume, Paganini are just some of those I can think of

[Wood Butcher]

17 hours ago, Mick healey said:

Gutted haha ok thankyou anyways ...how can you tell if it was genuine? 

A genuine Stainer would be very beautifully made, rare, 350 years old, and look  similar to Northern Italian instruments of the period.
In short, they are masterworks, and a far cry from commercial export instruments, which were made very cheaply.