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Any experience with Galliane Frog

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I initially posted this in the FIngerboard section thinking this topic is related to technical aspects of playing, but it also relates to the hardware side I guess. 

Does anybody have experience playing with a Galliane Frog for cello?. It's created by Benoit Rolland and the claim is that helps with bowing. http://www.benoitrolland.com/play-galliane.php

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I'm sceptical, especially About the Need for this solution, as I do not believe there is a Problem, at least not for Cello. I do not think it is hard at all to hold the bow in such a way that all the hair touches the string, and do that at times when I Need a lot of Sound. But most of the time, I do not want complete contact with the bow hair. My gut Feeling is that this Invention makes the Sound harder to influence, rather than easier to influence.

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I don't have any experience with the galliane frog (or the cello), but I admire Benoit Rolland for trying. I'm reminded of this quote from Steve Jobs:

 

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Well, the Invention has been around since 2012, I think. I haven't seen anyone using this frog, and there are no endorsements by great or een semi-great Players to be found online, at least not with a quick net search. I'm sure Benoit Rolland is a great bow maker, and that the frog does ist Job, but I remain sceptical that it is in fact an improvement, particularly for Cello.

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I fit one to a customer's Sartory bow a few years back.  He really liked the idea of it.  I think he tried it for awhile then switched it to a backup bow.  

 

Sometimes I think a particular tool sounds like a good idea.  Then I get it, try it, and realize it doesn't work as well as I hoped.

 

Sometimes, what seems like a good idea, doesn't work as well in practical everyday use.

 

A bowmaker told me it wasn't a new idea.  Other bow makers in the past had tried it and abandoned...... 

Dorian

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The main purported innovation in this frog seems to be that it tilts the hair ribbon.  But this has been done before.  Here's a picture of the frog on a bow owned by a man I play with every week:

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The head of this bow is tilted at the same angle.  It's a commercial German bow, about 75 to 100 years old.  I posted pictures of it on this forum in 2008 and a discussion ensued:

https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/317687-has-anyone-seen-a-bow-like-this/

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