Dom40 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, matesic said: I haven't got it with me at the moment. It looks identical, but then the one in Beares is very similar too. Maybe Craske even cloned his own "worm tracks"? Lol maybe. No that violin ☝️ is definitely the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Szyper Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 What means British? I vote for Greiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A432 Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 10:02 AM, Ethan Ford Heath said: https://ingleshayday.com/auction/1014-3/violin-by-cross-nathaniel-lot118/ I don't know if this is a Cross or not, but it is quite similar looking to a Cross cello I see regularly. Anyone whose work has been passed off as that of Carcassi deserves inclusion, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hetland Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 My Favourite "British" maker (40 years in the UK) was a Hungarian !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 I think the UK is very lucky to have so many talented makers working today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Butcher Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, Urban Luthier said: I think the UK is very lucky to have so many talented makers working today. Yes, but doesn’t seem to be realised or appreciated by the majority of UK players. The cult of the old holds great sway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Hetland said: My Favourite "British" maker (40 years in the UK) was a Hungarian !! That's nothing. My two favorite "German" makers are both Brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Butcher Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Violadamore said: That's nothing. My two favorite "German" makers are both Brits. Whose did you try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbos Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 1:37 AM, scordatura said: Currently reading "The Violin Makers" by Alberger. Interviews. All in all not a bad read. Always wondered about Luff violins. Never seen or played one. Maestronet's own Jacob Saunders' father is the first interview. I’ve played a Luff viola. Good instrument, very clear, perhaps not with the dark and chocolate-y sound one associates with a viola. As a violinist, I loved it (maybe because of that). I thought craftsmanship was good, but I am not an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Arbos said: I’ve played a Luff viola. Good instrument, very clear, perhaps not with the dark and chocolate-y sound one associates with a viola. As a violinist, I loved it (maybe because of that). I thought craftsmanship was good, but I am not an expert. Glad to hear at least someone chimed in. I was beginning to think that Luff had fallen out of favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 They are very common in England - I can't say I've ever played one I liked, but I keep trying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Slight Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, scordatura said: Glad to hear at least someone chimed in. I was beginning to think that Luff had fallen out of favor. Once you’re not around to promote your work any more, things start to fall off the radar pretty quickly. It’s a shame, but also a reality. Same thing has happened with Rubio for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, Dave Slight said: Once you’re not around to promote your work any more, things start to fall off the radar pretty quickly. It’s a shame, but also a reality. Same thing has happened with Rubio for example. Very true. I remember when Sergio Peresson was all the rage. The instruments are still around but not as "hot" as they used to be. Now it seems that Sam Z. is the king (at least in the USA). Greiner in the UK and Europe. The association with famous performers never hurts in this area in addition to some big prices at auction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Slight Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, scordatura said: Very true. I remember when Sergio Peresson was all the rage. The instruments are still around but not as "hot" as they used to be. Saddest is when a maker has died, and that very week when the news gets out, people want things revalued, because in their view it will be worth much more than before, now that the maker is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Dave Slight said: Saddest is when a maker has died, and that very week when the news gets out, people want things revalued, because in their view it will be worth much more than before, now that the maker is dead. I might be deceased. No violinist or anyone in the trade has seen me for about twelve hours now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sospiri Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 9 hours ago, David Burgess said: I might be deceased. No violinist or anyone in the trade has seen me for about twelve hours now. You could fake your own demise. Best to do it in a nineteenth century romantic poet/artist kinda way I think. At least that's what you want on the Coroner's report (50,000 rupees bribe, about $700) when you pop your clogs in a mysterious way during a trip to India: Cholera, Smallpox, Tuberculosis, Typhus, Syphilis, Chronic Alchoholism, Morphine overdose Any of those will raise your profile as the sad victim of fate or flawed genius and greatly increase the desirability of your output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 12 hours ago, David Burgess said: I might be deceased. No violinist or anyone in the trade has seen me for about twelve hours now. Off Topic, you are not British Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane88 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, sospiri said: Cholera, Smallpox, Tuberculosis, Typhus, Syphilis, Chronic Alchoholism, Morphine overdose Sheep-borne diseases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 6 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: Off Topic, you are not British I am at least partly of UK ancestry. Yes, I do understand how that could be very embarrassing to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 20 hours ago, David Burgess said: I am at least partly of UK ancestry. Yes, I do understand how that could be very embarrassing to you. About hundred millionth in line for the throne, should be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Maybe he could marry into the family to improve his standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: About hundred millionth in line for the throne, should be alright Well, King Edward IV, as well as a few others of British royalty since have wedded "commoners". Yes, we must not tolerate this! However, I'm convinced that I could come in better than 100-millionth, if I shave my mustache and legs, along with a carefully-placed wink from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Ben Conover Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 I read some of the text by Hebbert, very nice. As to the question of who is or was the best maker ? Surely there are too many living violin makers and some of them are able to produce fine stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, ~ Ben Conover said: ......Surely there are too many living violin makers......... Now there's a direction for the discussion that could sell a lot of popcorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sospiri Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 8:18 PM, David Burgess said: Well, King Edward IV, as well as a few others of British royalty since have wedded "commoners". Yes, we must not tolerate this! However, I'm convinced that I could come in better than 100-millionth, if I shave my mustache and legs, along with a carefully-placed wink from time to time. Make a claim to the title Duke of Cumberland. Someone should, it's up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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