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Dust filtration in a very small shop

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1 hour ago, Ken_N said:

What can you do in a basement?  Drill a hole in the poured concrete wall?  The room is not contained, so it is 1200 ft. with dust generated in a corner.

 

Ken,

You get a couple of the filters like the ones in the OP,,, I ordered mine from home depot online, 120.00 each delivered,, do yourself a favor.

After I got mine I felt like a moron for not having them years ago!!

Just do it,, they work,, no joke!

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2 hours ago, Michael_Molnar said:

Most dust settles to my shop floor overnight, so I have a robot vacuum that prowls the shop early in the morning before I can disturb the dust. 

Nice idea, i also considered doing it that way.

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18 hours ago, reg said:

How does a mampara know all that?  :rolleyes:

Beats me! The voices in my head may not be real but they sure come up with some interesting ideas.....

Maybe its just covfefe?

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19 hours ago, Michael_Molnar said:

Most dust settles to my shop floor overnight, so I have a robot vacuum that prowls the shop early in the morning before I can disturb the dust. 

Great idea - one of those robo vacs wold get very confused in my shop! almost no floor space :)

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My first workshop (before I migrated towards electric guitars) was 6'x8'x8', and I got by with this HEPA filter on an open-back shelf over my workbench, this nearly-silent window fan and a Shop-Vac ash vacuum I got at my local Rona, but which you should be able to find at a Lowe's or Home Depot near you.

The ash vacuums have a 2-stage filtration system, and a REALLY good gasket seal, so I prefer them to the regular Shop-Vacs---if just because they won't get fussy and spew the fine dust back out if you forget to empty it.

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I installed a 20 in box fan with furnace filter. Good enough to move around for tasks that kick up dust and small enough to stick behind the door when not in use. This combined with a good shop vac should be all I need. This festool dust extractor looks really nice for dealing with small scale stuff. Expensive! 

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I have a small workshop too. And customers come in.

Regular cleaning is a must. Evry day we clean the bench and the floor. Every week on Monday we clan what is in reach for a vacuum cleaner and once a month we do wet cleaning moving furniture around. For the rest I have a vacuum mounted at my small bandsaw which is the source for most of the dust. This way it looks every day clean (more or less) and dust is not accumulating too fast on instruments hanging in the shop. Once dust piles up somewhere it goes anywhere in the shop especially when the air conditioning is running.

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How are you guys attaching a vacuum to your band saws? I clip a brush to my 14" Delta under the table near the lower guides but doubt it picks up even half of the dust.  The open wheel covers allow dust to escape everywhere. 

Since I have plenty of space I don't worry much about the dust in the workshop as I have separate showrooms and a varnish room which I keep reasonably clean. However I may be downsizing soon and this will become more of an issue.

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I have an old General 15" bandsaw in the garage and the dust port is in the lower left on the front cage (lower left side of the bottom wheel). This seems to be the optimal place (on this saw at least) to extract dust. 

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6 hours ago, Andreas Preuss said:

...Once dust piles up somewhere it goes anywhere in the shop especially when the air conditioning is running.

This has been my problem as well. To make matters worse, in the summer it is very humid in Southern Ontario and dust that settles on tools is hydroscopic and can cause rust spots very quickly. I'm in the habit of removing the blades and cleaning every tool I use at the end of the day

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8 hours ago, nathan slobodkin said:

How are you guys attaching a vacuum to your band saws? I clip a brush to my 14" Delta under the table near the lower guides but doubt it picks up even half of the dust.

I'm not sure that this will be any help to you, since this Delta 14" dust collection attachment hasn't been available for many years. I think I bought it back in the 1980's, not long after I bought my saw. It puts the intake right at the sweet spot, so it works pretty well. They had another similar design available as recently as about ten years ago, but I looked for it today and couldn't find it. They might still have something available. They surely should!

Anyway, here it is. The only modification required to the saw was to drill and tap the frame for the black attachment knob.

(Note: In photo three I opened the wheel cover door for more clarity.)

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5 hours ago, lsf said:

OMG that's a good one!  You can tell there are a bunch of old men here. :D

I was just trying to gig David, but I suspect it did resonate with a bunch of other MNers.  After all, who else has this much time to spend debating the finer points of manipulating lignin in wood?:lol:

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21 hours ago, Julian Cossmann Cooke said:

I was just trying to gig David, but I suspect it did resonate with a bunch of other MNers.  After all, who else has this much time to spend debating the finer points of manipulating lignin in wood?:lol:

Sorry, hadn't checked in recently enough to catch it sooner.

Might methane be useful in artificially aging wood and varnish?  Could that be Pablo's secret? ;)

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44 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

Sorry, hadn't checked in recently enough to catch it sooner.

Might methane be useful in artificially aging wood and varnish?  Could that be Pablo's secret? ;)

I don't know how much methane a whoopee cushion generates.  Probably just halitosis.:lol:  Then again, THAT might be full of ozone or some such.  Then again AGAIN, that may be the next generation whoopee cushion -- sound and aroma.  Could be a big seller.  Maybe one of our chemists can suggest something, we could get them produced in China.  Would sell like hotcakes, I would wager.

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Just added a small Miele vacuum as the last piece of my shop dust management system. It may seem like an odd choice for a shop but it is perfect for general clean up of dust and debris that doesn't get captured in the box fan filter or swept up. It has plenty of power, a floor attachment, hepa filter etc. And it take bags which means i dont have to deal with allergy attacks when cleaning a shop vac. It also super quite. This unit was an end of the line model so it cost only margnaly more than a small shop vac 

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17 hours ago, Urban Luthier said:

This unit was an end of the line model so it cost only margnaly more than a small shop vac 

Can you share where you purchased it?

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