Peter K-G Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 There it is! Varnish, should. not be the subject/object The ground IS the varnish(and it is not = varnish) If varnish = varnish (that is substance of linseed oil or/and resins) => Varnish is really really dark, or filled with pigments/color Otherwise it is NOT varnish i.e it is the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Peter K-G said: There it is! Varnish, should. not be the subject/object The ground IS the varnish(and it is not = varnish) If varnish = varnish (that is substance of linseed oil or/and resins) => Varnish is really really dark, or filled with pigments/color Otherwise it is NOT varnish i.e it is the ground This post is a bit confusing Peter...what are you saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 I feel like I read a zen koan just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 That was totally confusing. I think of the ground as being the primary finish with the varnish just a color coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Molnar Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Peter K-G said: There it is! Varnish, should. not be the subject/object The ground IS the varnish(and it is not = varnish) If varnish = varnish (that is substance of linseed oil or/and resins) => Varnish is really really dark, or filled with pigments/color Otherwise it is NOT varnish i.e it is the ground Are you OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Allen Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 I think that all of the varnish fumes are getting to someone's head lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 You shouldn't be huffing the turpentine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Panke Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Perhaps it’s an analogy for life - the ground being the necessary components to remain alive, the varnish what makes life worthwhile! I think what he’s trying to say is that people refer to the colour as varnish, whereas the ground, sometimes oleoresinous, is not what people look at as varnish. Nonetheless, I am a little confused. Varnish is (in this case) an oleoresinous coating. The ground can be made of varnish, or not, the “varnish” as in the layers above the ground, is still varnish, whether dark or not. At least it’s not called polish, which is a process, not a substance. Perhaps it is best if we use Koen Padding’s terminology primer - enhances the wood quality sealer- fills/bridges the pores ground- provides an even foundation for subsequent layers “paint” - adds colour varnish - creates a protective layer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter K-G Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 It's easy to get attention The story behind is that I have recently recieved some e-mails/pm:s because I have a lot of pictures on Google of my varnish making. Many questions about, have you tried this and that, I haven't! Everything I do is on my site and in image albums Short answer, don't say that it's ground if you put linseed oil or varnish directly on bare wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter K-G Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Good philosophy Anthony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 10:42 AM, Peter K-G said: It's easy to get attention The story behind is that I have recently recieved some e-mails/pm:s because I have a lot of pictures on Google of my varnish making. Many questions about, have you tried this and that, I haven't! Everything I do is on my site and in image albums Short answer, don't say that it's ground if you put linseed oil or varnish directly on bare wood. Isn't this a distinction without a purpose? Sort of like debating whether a violin maker is an artist or a craftsman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sospiri Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 3:42 PM, Peter K-G said: Short answer, don't say that it's ground if you put linseed oil or varnish directly on bare wood. Should we start a linseed oil based varnish discussion group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janito Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 I should be keen on a Linseed Oil Ground discussion Group - aka 'LOG-dG". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sospiri Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Janito said: I should be keen on a Linseed Oil Ground discussion Group - aka 'LOG-dG". Me too. Maybe one day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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