Help to identify a violin

[Damian]

Hi. 

Please help me to identify a violin show on the pictures. On the back there is visible a date (1834 ?).

[luthier]

bump... The violin could date back to the 1700's, possibly of Germanic origins. The number below the button is likely an inventory number, not a date. It is unique, to say the least. What is the LOB? Hopefully someone who is more knowledgeable will respond. 

[Blank face]

It's a bit difficult to see by the photos. Probably a rather nicely Markneukirchen or Klingenthal made violin, possibly 1834, with a revarnished/overvarnished  top. The neck could be elongated at the root.

[GeorgeH]

My guess is that it is a late 19th century Markneukirchen, and the "1834" under the button has nothing to do with the date it was made.

[BassClef]

Interesting center line of the scroll. Is there a technical way to describe this unusual characteristic?

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7 hours ago, BassClef said:

Interesting center line of the scroll. Is there a technical way to describe this unusual characteristic?

I would call it "edgeing", sometimes in ivory, sometimes ebony like here. The plates are showing this feature, too, a bit blurred by the exposure of the photos. The better Vogtland makers used this method till roughly first half of the 19th century for the more expensive instruments, that's why I'm guessing that the 1834 date is right.

I'm still unsure about the varnish, if it's original or altered. Maybe the OP could post some more photos with a different light?

 

[Damian]

Thanks for the replies. Tomorrow I will post some extra pictures. Should I capture any specific places to make the identification easier? 

[GeorgeH]

The center line in the scroll looks painted, not inlaid ebony, to me. The ebony edging around the top and back looks half-edged, and could have been added later. 

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4 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

The center line in the scroll looks painted, not inlaid ebony, to me. The ebony edging around the top and back looks half-edged, and could have been added later. 

You are quite right that the line at the rear scroll and the delta are scribed and painted, but very neatly. The inlay work is a more time consuming job, with ebony as well as with ivory, which might be the reason that it was done so, but also the reason why I'm doubting that someone would have taken the time and effort to add this later. Of course it is "half-edged", that's the usual way it was done, otherwise it wouldn't hold there much long.

[Damian]

Length of back is 35,8 counting with the ebony edging 

[Damian]

And the pictures