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I wonder if someone could make a really good violin from pallet wood??? :ph34r:

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2 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

So thats why you have a Trillion $ p.a. deficit, and borrow it off the Chinese at 3,5% interest instead. I wonder if they will want to do that anymore, the way things are going

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You are obviously not paying enough:D

More stunning brilliance, bravo....

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3 minutes ago, Rue said:

I wonder if someone could make a really good violin from pallet wood??? :ph34r:

With a NEA grant, anything is possible! B)

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Not green pallet wood! Aged pallet wood...

A grant wood be very helpful :)

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1 minute ago, Rue said:

I wonder if someone could make a really good violin from pallet wood??? :ph34r:

[Pokes around in her pallet pile]  Most pallets are made from roughly sawn hardwoods, often tropical, and usually full of knots and other defects.  They are also often used until they are full of cracks and fractures.  I have utilized them in cabinetry with some limited success, and like small cuts of figured wood for decoration, but feel that they are ill-suited to fiddles.  I could see someone getting a back and a neck by extensive cherry-picking, but there's nothing good for a top.  Spruce and pine are too soft for fork-lift pallets, so they aren't used.  :)

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14 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

If you ever read the books, you'll find that they are reasoned arguments against socialism, from the point of view of Classical Liberalism.  The "Omnipotent Government" being referred to by von Mises is not only that of Nazi Germany, or of Fascist Italy, or of the Soviet Union, as specific cases, but a generalized nonexistent mythological creature hoped for by some voters, which will fix all of society's ills by government fiat.  Why this won't work in practice, particularly if pursued to its logical conclusions, is explained in great detail by both authors.  What I find most interesting is how it is shown that the system will eventually fail without regard to the core ideology being applied.  The current states of Europe are far from "Omnipotent", but the arguments involving the effects of market controls and massive tax burdens on the public's welfare still, IMHO, hold their validity.  :)

This is understandable from a particular catastrophic historical situation (dictatures, war, genocide), but you can see it also as belief in "The Führer" or "The Communist Party/Comrade Stalin". Actually I can see no significant political movement calling for a mythological creature.

What you're calling tax burden is seen as necessary balance, and always subject to discussion, decision or voting.

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2 minutes ago, Blank face said:

This is understandable from a particular catastrophic historical situation (dictatures, war, genocide), but you can see it also as belief in "The Führer" or "The Communist Party/Comrade Stalin". Actually I can see no significant political movement calling for a mythological creature.

What you're calling tax burden is seen as necessary balance, and always subject to discussion, decision or voting.

Unfortunately, not....as in Venezuela. 

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16 minutes ago, Jerry Pasewicz said:

 there will always be people like Jacob that wants to get “free” stuff 

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth

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15 minutes ago, Rue said:

I wonder if someone could make a really good violin from pallet wood??:ph34r:

Weren't some of Dodd's bows suspected to be made from wood from barrels (which I am assuming were a precursor - of sorts - to pallets)?

I wonder if there were any equally-colourful violin makers mooching around the docks at the same sort of time, amongst similarly rich pickings?

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4 minutes ago, Blank face said:

Actually I can see no significant political movement calling for a mythological creature.

 

That phrase was wholly my own, and chosen to signify that an all-powerful benign state composed of human politicians is an impossibility not found in nature.

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37 minutes ago, Rue said:

A grant wood be very helpful :)

If we had a Grant Wood, we could auction it off and buy decent tonewood with the proceeds.  We could then take the tonewood to a pallet manufacturer to be fabricated into a pallet, and unveil our ummmm..........project on MN starting next April 1st.:lol:

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I swear the pallets we're accumulating (er, for goat related projects) are pine. 

Not a pallet violin - but still intriguing:

 

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To clear up some things; it does not matter where you live, unless it is Iran, Nk, and now maybe China,Russia.

Your "monetary nexum system" is in full swing, the problem is "you" don't understand how.it works. You want money, and may be good at garnering it after it has been made but know nothing about how it comes into existence. We could say that the world today exists as an obfuscation as to "just how all the works"...

ONE OF THE BIGGEST HURDLES IN THIS IS PEOPLES "CHILDLIKE" UNDERSTANDING OF TAXATION. I say childlike because the necessary propaganda is instilled early on in childhood, sticks in the brain and becomes the "knowledge base" to which people base their ideology on......ok, so here it goes

YOUR GOVERNMENTS DO NOT RUN LIKE A BUSINESS....THEY ARE NOT TAKING IN "PROFIT" {IE. TAX MONEY} AND THEN USING THAT TAX MONEY TO "GET" THE "STUFF" YOU NEED....like social security, military, infrastructure...on and on

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS; that in 1913, a criminal gang inserted itself in behind government as a "quasi" agency....

that 1. is privately owned  2. is for profit 3. their "product that they "create" IS MONEY...AND IT IS NOT "FREE" FOR YOU AND I, YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS

think of it like this, the central bank inserts itself in, then all they need to do is BE THE SOURCE OF THE MONEY....THEY THEN ACT LIKE "VISA"....AND LOAN MONEY INTO EXISTENCE ....

so, need some planes, trains or automobiles for war? who you gonna call? need some money to pay for old folks to have something to live on ? who you gonna call? let millions of illegal undocumented foreign travelers in and need to pay for all their stuff? who you gonna call, need to go bomb someone for 18 years? who's gonna pay for all those bombs, hey kids can't afford college, no problem

ALL OF IT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PAID FOR WITH BORROWED MONEY.....UNCLE "VISA" THE FED/EU, IS MORE THAN WILLING TO PRINT UP ANYTHING YOU WANT AND ENSLAVE YOUR CHILDREN, THEIR CHILDREN....AND BASICALLY IF YOU ASSUME THE "DEBT" THEY HAVE LAID ON YOU....IT WILL TAKE ....FOREVER....TO PAY OFF TRILLIONS, FACTORING IN THAT UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE SYSTEM, YOU JUST KEEP GENERATING DEBT...

YOUR "TAX" MONEY IS NOT PAYING FOR ANYTHING....IT IS "SERVICING" THE INTEREST ON A LOAN' NOT EVEN TOUCHING THE PRINCIPLE AND CERTAINLY NOT GENERATING "INCOME" TO HAVE ANY RESERVE TO PAY FOR ANYTHING....and everyday more debt is created....IN PERPETUITY 

you are all like an 18 yr old kid driving around in a financed car with really nice clothes on and a pinky ring, all paid for with credit and you actually FEEL rich, but really your broke....BUT, ONLY IF YOU ASSUME THE DEBT...

the reason you do, is because you think it works some other way....that it runs like a business, takes in money and pays for stuff it needs, that the "government" "makes the money".....trump just raised the debt ceiling again recently, haha

based on their calculations, you have spent 23 trillion dollars more than you have earned , THEY  have written out over 600 trillion!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in IOU'S that "you" are on the hook for...

these people own your government and your media and literally create your reality and narrative, and it is imperative THAT YOU understand this in the coming years....

again if you want to know why everything is the way it is, this is why

if you are republican or democrat, you are just dumb and dumber.....the real power level is where the money is being created...

THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND CENTRAL BANKING AND ITS ROLE IN THIS WORLD UNDERSTAND WHAT' THE "BIG DEAL" WITH TRUMP IS....he is either the best actor ever known working with the bankers, making it "look real" by allowing him to shoot them in the foot over and over, or he is the biggest threat they have faced EVER.

I feel sorry for people who watch tv, particularly "news"...they are they types who allow the pocket watch to be swung back in forth in front if their eyes, not even realizing how brainwashed they are.

and understand, yellow vest's, brexit, crypto and in general "nationalism vs globalism" is the issue....ALL ABOUT CENTRAL BANKING AND THE MONEY YOU USE

THE GREATEST THREAT TO HUMANITY IS "THE MONEY" YOU ARE USING, NOT MONEY

 

 

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Pallets in this part of the country are made from all sorts of local hardwoods, mostly oak, hickory, gum, and whatever else... the nails leave nice gnarly black stains, folks love to do rustic design stuff with the parts, a lot of work to break a bunch of em down. Pretty sure it would suck for violins.

Most people don't seem to actually care what the government spends tax dollars on or what the central bank does as long as they believe $$ is going to the things they support...

A lot or most, also seem to think that they, "government" are and have the solution to all of our problems..... 

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19 minutes ago, cjankowski said:

Pallets in this part of the country are made from all sorts of local hardwoods, mostly oak, hickory, gum, and whatever else... the nails leave nice gnarly black stains, folks love to do rustic design stuff with the parts, a lot of work to break a bunch of em down. Pretty sure it would suck for violins.

Most people don't seem to actually care what the government spends tax dollars on or what the central bank does as long as they believe $$ is going to the things they support...

A lot or most, also seem to think that they, "government" are and have the solution to all of our problems..... 

again, all by design, almost always the outcome of a central bank system is for it to shift to socialism/communism, then the killing starts.

it is all based on psychological manipulation of the "group" in that under a debt based monetary system, at the start, it can be milk and honey, then in the middle , it starts to go south, then after awhile, things get bad, then thats when the beat down pay check to pay check population looks for a savior....the bail out....and soon after that the snake starts eating it's own tail....

the sad part is that with all this comes lots of death and senseless killing, but you are right, people just don't really care do they....they can't even take the time to learn whats happening to them, let alone do anything to stop it, they don't think, or know there is anything to stop.

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4 minutes ago, jezzupe said:

again, all by design, almost always the outcome of a central bank system is for it to shift to socialism/communism, then the killing starts.

it is all based on psychological manipulation of the "group" in that under a debt based monetary system, at the start, it can be milk and honey, then in the middle , it starts to go south, then after awhile, things get bad, then thats when the beat down pay check to pay check population looks for a savior....the bail out....and soon after that the snake starts eating it's own tail....

the sad part is that with all this comes lots of death and senseless killing, but you are right, people just don't really care do they....they can't even take the time to learn whats happening to them, let alone do anything to stop it, they don't think, or know there is anything to stop.

Why try to stop the very thing you put your hope and faith in? 

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3 hours ago, Rue said:

I swear the pallets we're accumulating (er, for goat related projects) are pine. 

Not a pallet violin - but still intriguing:

 

20190525_114115.jpg

Those harps are lovely.  Where and what are they?

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Local Woodworkers Guild show. :)

There are some awesome craftsmen/artists!

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Rue said:

Local Woodworkers Guild show. :)

There are some awesome craftsmen/artists!

 

 

Very nice harps they make.  I wish we had some of them around here.  Any of them want to take flight as snowbirds?  ;):lol:

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On 5/25/2019 at 8:31 AM, jacobsaunders said:

Vienna (a city of ca. 2 million) has 4 major orchestras, Philharmonic, Synfonica, Ton-Kunstler, and Radio Synfonie, and some more minor ones, 2 big Operas, State and Volks, as well as some smaller ones, a Hochschule AND a Conservatory, and much else. I am glad the Republic, and or the States pay for it, because I doubt that our Butt-Joint-Jerries would. The American Butt-Joint-Jerries seem happy to build football stadiums.

Dude. a goshdarned Chevy won the world-famous Indianapolis 500 race today, not some "vanity brand" like Mercedes or Porsche.

Austria is certainly a very beautiful place. I have been there. Have you ever visited the US state of Hawaii, where I am right now, sitting on a balcony watching the Pacific ocean surf crash against the shoreline of this island paradise?

I "get" national pride and all, but do you ever have the feeling that you got gypped? :P

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18 minutes ago, Ray Weaver said:

Who would have guessed that this was a thread about comparing the geographical beauty of one nation to another?

Or about race cars? Or butt joints? :D

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