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Who is Joannes Februnet?

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Hello all

Stupid question please:

A family friend has a really pretty violin certified genuine by a master luthier working out of Switzerland to be a Joannes Februnet. 

Who is this maker? There is JB Februnet on the internet but very little on Joannes Februnet. Are they related or same person? The work appears to be very similar

Thank you!

Ray

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54 minutes ago, viola_license_revoked said:

Hello all

Stupid question please:

A family friend has a really pretty violin certified genuine by a master luthier working out of Switzerland to be a Joannes Februnet. 

Who is this maker? There is JB Februnet on the internet but very little on Joannes Februnet. Are they related or same person? The work appears to be very similar

Thank you!

Ray

Considering it is certified, it might be best to contact the individual that certified the violin, as he/she will certainly have that information to share. ;)

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Thanks ClefLover! Unfortunately the master dude retired 2 years ago... I'm just curious and sending out feelers to see if anyone knows more about Ioannes (?) Or Joannes Februnet... Btw, which clef do you love? Just curious... thanks again

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8 minutes ago, christian bayon said:

Frebrunet or Frebinet was a family working in France (east) probably coming from Germany , Fressbrunner, and change the name to a more French version.

Thank you Mr Bayon! 

So i would assume Ioannes or Joannes would have been a part of the family including JB... I wonder if he made anything else besides violins

ray

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1 hour ago, viola_license_revoked said:

So i would assume Ioannes or Joannes would have been a part of the family including JB... I wonder if he made anything else besides violins

ray

Or Ioannes is just Latin name for Jean (Jean-Baptiste -JB) :)

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The pictures are kind of small!

This looks like it might be a Vieux Paris instrument, but I would assume the label is a later attempt to attribute the instrument to a maker.

Jean-Baptiste Frebrunet signed himself Joannes on his labels, but this doesn't look like an authentic label.

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9 minutes ago, martin swan said:

The pictures are kind of small!

This looks like it might be a Vieux Paris instrument, but I would assume the label is a later attempt to attribute the instrument to a maker.

Jean-Baptiste Frebrunet signed himself Joannes on his labels, but this doesn't look like an authentic label.

Oh no...

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55 minutes ago, martin swan said:

Jean-Baptiste Frebrunet signed himself Joannes on his labels, but this doesn't look like an authentic label.

Hard to tell by the over-exposured photo, but the style looks similar to the example in the Cozio archive, though the arrangement is different. A bit too clean for an authentic label, but who knows? At least the scroll with the wide outer winding seems close, too.

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Actually the scroll seems quite different to me - the Cozio one had a "scrollmakers' guild" scroll, very round and quite fat at the top of the scroll (when viewed from in front). The OP scroll seems to have a much bigger head and eye, but to be narrow in width across the top.

Overall it's a bit less refined and well ordered than one would expect from a Frebrunet, but it would be great to see better photos.

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It's too difficult turning the neck to the right so long for an exact comparison.;) The throat is longer and wider at the OP, too, but as you say, scrolls were often ordered from specialised shops. Maybe Michael Appleman can tell more, if he's around.

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The violin looks pretty much like what I've seen certified by Rampal as a Frebrunet, from what I can see in the photos. I've never seen a label like this one, but from what i've come to understand Frebrunet rarely labeled his own work, often supplying violins to others, occasionally with hidden J(I)BF brands. The Frebrunet/Frebinet clan seems to have been an old Mirecourt family, and they show up on marriage deeds with various violin and bowmaking families through the generations. Jean Baptiste and "Ioannes" seem to be the same person. I expect the ribs will be in a channel and there are often black "fake" locating pins on the back.

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I play a violin made by Frebrunet, and the label looks almost identical to the one pictured. I will post photos of my violin in the future so you can compare it. His violins are indeed beautiful, with a sweet, mellow tone that I find quite enchanting!

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