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Fake Frenchies, but scrolls look almost interesting

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Just as the title suggests, these cellos do not look French, the labels are obviously fake, but the scrolls look slightly interesting in a wonky Markneukirchen way, bodies look Romanian... could they still be worth the listed prices disregarding the presented origins/labels?  Also, the “Laberte” doesn’t really look that appealing by any standard (new or old), in my opinion.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123639056175

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F123639027937

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BTW, I realize no one on MN typically cares about eBay listings.  Just curious if they looked like they were fairly priced with the assumption that they are newer instruments.  

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According to Mr. Dilworth, Amati Mangenot was born in 1901. This 1907 cello of his indicates that he was a real over-achiever! Looks Romanian to me (although my ID skills are really bad).

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6 minutes ago, Stavanger said:

If you think it’s romanian, you should comission one in Reghin yourself instead, for 1/3 - 1/8th of the price.

Sorry, I will always be the village idiot around here... shoukd have said Chinese for how much I know.  Would that make it a cheaper commission?  :blink: And do you think it’s something different?  I just thought they may have been deserving of the asking prices, mainly the “Mangenot,” I see companies here in the states put four thousand to six thousand dollar prices on commissioned Chinese and Romanian instruments all the time.

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No such thing as village idiot. :) 

Im not going to speculate on the origins of those two cellos from ebay, it’s not really my cup of tea. (I would be surpriced thou if they are anything remotely related to what they claim to be, both age and origin-wise.)

Regarding my comments about Reghin, you obviously have a vast span of quality. Many skilled luthiers there! I was offered a set of three lower end, but decent looking cellos prior to setup for 1000€. Not each, for all  three. Made by some random luthier. Add 100€ for a specialized scroll by one of those really skilled guys that only make scrolls, then slap in whatever label you have, et voila!

 

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