Byrdbop Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I live above an auction house so buy a lot of rubbish I don't need. Long story but I actually bought this and a German Cello bow out of politeness. Check out the f-hole notch alignment! At least it should amuse. At best could this be an amateur English 3/4 size violin and therefore have a smidgen of folk culture appeal? It has no bassbar btw not that one would add anything. I quite like the colour of the back. Included in the lot was an ACME plastic molded tailpiece which may be of interest to someone... enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Is the bow of equal quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, PhilipKT said: Is the bow of equal quality? Usable but nothing to get excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just noticed how forlorn the scroll looks front on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 "Dutzendarbeit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Byrdbop said: Just noticed how forlorn the scroll looks front on. That caught my attention, too. Congratulations, this may be the worst attempt at a fiddle that I've yet seen posted here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Oh ok thanks. Would it possibly have made by a child? I'm right thinking whole families were involved in the construction process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: "Dutzendarbeit" I certainly hope not. That would imply that there's 11 more in existence somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Violadamore said: I certainly hope not. That would imply that there's 11 more in existence somewhere. You have more than that in your attic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: You have more than that in your attic No, my Markies all exceed this truly exceptional level of quality, and possess bass bars. Neither do any exhibit mill marks on the outside of the ribs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 There appear to be grosses upon grosses of 'em out there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Violadamore said: No, my Markies all exceed this truly exceptional level of quality, and possess bass bars. Neither do any exhibit mill marks on the outside of the ribs. No extra charge for that feature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddleDoug Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 I think that might have come from the Kindling shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwillis Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 42 minutes ago, FiddleDoug said: I think that might have come from the Kindling shop. The Kindling brothers were known heavy drinkers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 The very worst quality violins from the cottage industry “markies” are by definition exceedingly rare. A museum quality example of the worst of the worst from a certain time and place. You need these around in order to display a spectrum of quality. Keep it proudly. Preserve history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 ...in other words... BC wants it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 4 hours ago, FiddleDoug said: I think that might have come from the Kindling shop. I don't have an open fire unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Merkel Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Touch up the scratches and when you're finished you'll be the world's leading expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 At least this is a fiddle sold for a few Groschen to enable a poor people's child to play the violin and made by other poor people obliged to produce so many instruments as possible within a certain time frame for the wholesaler (who usually was a millionaire). Nothing to be so amused about, and something what's not so very different today, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Blank face said: At least this is a fiddle sold for a few Groschen to enable a poor people's child to play the violin and made by other poor people obliged to produce so many instruments as possible within a certain time frame for the wholesaler (who usually was a millionaire). Nothing to be so amused about, and something what's not so very different today, is it? I love it really. It has a story to tell and somebody has played it a lot in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antero Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 I have restored worse than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 With Byrdbop I strongly agree. You've got a classic early 1900s tavern fiddle there. This violin stuck around for a long time. It's a survivor. Heck, someone even took the time to trim the pegs flush. Wither through love of music and tradition or maybe someone knew how to get a special tone out of it. Or maybe get a night of drinks out of it? A good wipe-down with naphtha (but be not tempted to set it aflame). Off with the dirt, repair a crack or two, maybe a new piece here and there, glue it up taut, make a perfect bridge, and string it up. I'd leave varnish out of the restoration. Looks heavy enough, with that thick fingerboard. Too bad it is not a 4/4. Here are a couple rescues I did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdbop Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Woodman said: With Byrdbop I strongly agree. You've got a classic early 1900s tavern fiddle there. This violin stuck around for a long time. It's a survivor. Heck, someone even took the time to trim the pegs flush. Wither through love of music and tradition or maybe someone knew how to get a special tone out of it. Or maybe get a night of drinks out of it? A good wipe-down with naphtha (but be not tempted to set it aflame). Off with the dirt, repair a crack or two, maybe a new piece here and there, glue it up taut, make a perfect bridge, and string it up. I'd leave varnish out of the restoration. Looks heavy enough, with that thick fingerboard. Too bad it is not a 4/4. Here are a couple rescues I did last year. Well that thick fingerboard is very comfortable to use despite its size it does have a somewhat special tone. It sounds like an old pub/tavern fiddle. I Just happen to have a bridge cut for folk fiddle that fits the top to perfection. I'll enjoy it until I sell it on. If it was 4/4 it would be a keeper. Only one small crack to the treble f-hole which is a miracle - no obvious repairs anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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