uguntde Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 A violin without label, although one can see where the label was. One pece front and one piece unfigured back.I would say this has to be a Kloz of some kind. Georg II? The f-holes are untypical. Can supply more pictures for better ID. The top and bottom blocks more square shaped and not round (more what I know from French instruments). The corner blocks exxtend further into the (one piece) bottom rib than intot he C-bout ribs. Sounds nice, dark tone, typical for such a highly arched instrument Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deans Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Cool fiddle. George seems to be a popular pick these days, used to be Sebastian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
germain Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Nice fiddle... and Crocs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rue Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, germain said: Nice fiddle... and Crocs And yes, to answer your question - no matter how interesting the instrument - we will always notice errant footwear - or feet... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Nice to see an old slabbed back with no cracks. I like the patina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Allen Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 I think this is a really handsome fiddle. I love unfigured backs that actually look good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Nice old Mittenwald, but why has it necessarily to be a "Kloz of some kind" and not a Sailer, Hornstainer, Karrner or one of the hundred other good makers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnCockburn Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 9 hours ago, lpr5184 said: Nice to see an old slabbed back with no cracks. i think i see one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uguntde Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, JohnCockburn said: i think i see one. Yes there is a very well repaired crack in the back, left bottom, studded inside. Not close to the sound post. No soundpost patch on the front which is amazing for a fiddle this age. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uguntde Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Blank face said: Nice old Mittenwald, but why has it necessarily to be a "Kloz of some kind" and not a Sailer, Hornstainer, Karrner or one of the hundred other good makers? That's my question. Can we assign a name to it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnCockburn Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 never mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, uguntde said: That's my question. Can we assign a name to it? call it Kevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ClefLover Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: call it Kevin Omg! Hah!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 hours ago, JohnCockburn said: i think i see one. I should have zoomed in...I see it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 hours ago, uguntde said: That's my question. Can we assign a name to it? I don't think that it's possible here by some photos (if you want more than Jacob's suggestion). Usually the experts in this matters would need to see it in person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Holmes Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, Blank face said: I don't think that it's possible here by some photos (if you want more than Jacob's suggestion). Usually the experts in this matters would need to see it in person. I kind of like the name Kevin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeffrey Holmes said: I kind of like the name Kevin. But in case it's a girl? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Holmes Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blank face said: But in case it's a girl? Not sure it matters much. My daughter had a male betta fish once named Betty White. It didn't seem to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jeffrey Holmes said: Not sure it matters much. My daughter had a male betta fish once named Betty White. It didn't seem to mind. Fishes don't have the feelings of a violin, but maybe more humour (and a shorter life span, especially male Betta). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eloffe Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 fish and humans have the same type of nervous system...... they just can not express themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marijan Radaljac Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Blank face said: But in case it's a girl? Camille? She`s quite a looker anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uguntde Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Let me ask this way. If I took it to H Köstler and asked for an expertise he would probably come up with something. If he assiged a name to it, would you believe him? If not, I'll call it Kevin Kloz from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Allen Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Jeffrey Holmes said: Not sure it matters much. My daughter had a male betta fish once named Betty White. It didn't seem to mind. My brother in law has a white cat named Betty White. It's a boy cat too. But he's the only cat I ever loved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tradfiddle Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 The f-holes are not atypical for several Mittenwald makers. If you can give the metrics (back length and the three usual widths), I might be able to suggest a few possibilities. I have accumulated a Mittenwald database over the years... The locator pins on the back (top and bottom) are the unusual thing. They are pretty rare on 18th century Mittenwald instruments - though I have noted them on some instruments by Sebastian, Joseph and George Klotz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Surely a bit rough and ready for a Georg Kloz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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