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Ok so I know nothing about cellos other than they are on the other side of the orchestra from me.  But this one I got on a whim at a sale today.  There are three penciled repair notes inside. Two from 1922 and one in 1924. Obviously not been in any sort of working order for a very long time.  Maybe some smart people can enlighten me on when it may be from. Sorry in advance for the pictures and the dirtiness of the cello.  Thanks

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I know nothing about instruments, but I’ve never seen a peg box like this one.  The top is very very dirty but it looks like there is at least one crack that goes full length, Which would require the top to come off, at which point you could probably see some other things of interest. Someone else can chime in as to whether the repair would be worthwhile.

have you had a look inside? Did it come with a bow?

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15 hours ago, PhilipKT said:

I know nothing about instruments, but I’ve never seen a peg box like this one.  The top is very very dirty but it looks like there is at least one crack that goes full length, Which would require the top to come off, at which point you could probably see some other things of interest. Someone else can chime in as to whether the repair would be worthwhile.

have you had a look inside? Did it come with a bow?

No bow, three penciled on repair notes dated 1922 and 1924.  There are upper and lower blocks and the linings seem to bump up next to them no go inside

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18 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

My first Impression would  be a regional 19thC. English one. It needs  taking to bits and putting back together again

When you speak of taking apart are you referring specifically to anything other than removing the top, or do you expect to take off anything else? I was wondering if the neck needed adjustment.

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27 minutes ago, PhilipKT said:

When you speak of taking apart are you referring specifically to anything other than removing the top, or do you expect to take off anything else? I was wondering if the neck needed adjustment.

Since you  ask specifically, I would take the neck out, remove old glue and dirt, and refit it. The same goes for much of the remaining cello

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18 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

Since you  ask specifically, I would take the neck out, remove old glue and dirt, and refit it. The same goes for much of the remaining cello

Thank you very much. In the Morris book, Reverend Morris constantly speaks of getting a violin and “taking it to bits” and I’ve always wondered how much disassembly that actually involved.

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1 hour ago, Richf said:

FWIW, the head looks grafted on.  Someone here (can't remember who) described that type of cut (i.e., not a fully tapered splice) as a "Hill" graft.  Is there a better term for that?

You are right.  I didn’t even see the graft under the dirt yesterday 

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4 hours ago, Richf said:

FWIW, the head looks grafted on.  Someone here (can't remember who) described that type of cut (i.e., not a fully tapered splice) as a "Hill" graft.  Is there a better term for that?

In violin-making school, we were told that this neck graft method is called „French“. It is to be avoided, due to the end-grain to end-grain glue joint that will invariably become a dity black line in due course.

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10 minutes ago, PhilipKT said:

The top needs serious attention but it looks like a well worth-while purchase.

i hope you’ll share information as you get to regarding what repairs it needs  As well as post repair photographs. The scroll certainly cleaned up very nicely.

I will...  here are a few more pics cleaned off a bit 

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One repair note 1922 by dB Rockwell Portland, Maine :

David Bailey Rockwell (died c. 1925), though originally from Maine, worked in Boston c. 1878-1895, where he owned various businesses. A self-taught violin maker, he worked at different instrument shops and frequently moved to other cities, including Hartford, Detroit, Chicago, and San Francisco before finally settling in New York.

This violin, made in Boston in 1898, displays D. B. Rockwell's significant talent for copying instruments of old Italian masters. This violin is a fine example of Rockwell's work in excellent condition. It displays a powerful sound that is deep and robust with full support in the low register and a shimmering treble. The tone abounds with character and complexity, often sounding earthy or rustic

 

the other r e Knight Yarmouth, Maine 1922

 

so this cello lived in Maine at one point

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