Sign in to follow this  
Egidio Santos

Mittenwald Template/Pattern

Recommended Posts

I know it's a long shot but... Does anybody have (and is willing to share) a Klotz violin pattern (top/back/scroll/arching)?
I've managed to get something out of photos but it's hard to tell how accurate since i don't have access to those instruments..

Anything?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Violins of the Klotz family can be excellent, but are essentially more or less faithful executions of a Stainer model. Push comes to shove, you could start with the various and sundry available Stainer resources and add in some Klotz flavor by eye. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said:

Violins of the Klotz family can be excellent, but are essentially more or less faithful executions of a Stainer model. Push comes to shove, you could start with the various and sundry available Stainer resources and add in some Klotz flavor by eye. 

I agree with this. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
56 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said:

Violins of the Klotz family can be excellent, but are essentially more or less faithful executions of a Stainer model. Push comes to shove, you could start with the various and sundry available Stainer resources and add in some Klotz flavor by eye. 

That's a really good point, thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, JacksonMaberry said:

Violins of the Klotz family can be excellent, but are essentially more or less faithful executions of a Stainer model. Push comes to shove, you could start with the various and sundry available Stainer resources and add in some Klotz flavor by eye. 

The original 'baroque' 1679 is well documented with Roger Hargrave article in the public domain and a Strad poster available.

Only thing that makes me a little reluctant is the relatively small size of this instrument. It measures 352 over the arch, which is probably about 350 calliper if that.

Is there another Stainer violin a little larger that is documented sufficiently to make templates? Is anything known about Stainer's mould(s)?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Hargrave article are invaluable, as are the technical drawings from the NMM Stainer violin. 

I don't share your reluctance - instruments of that size can be very capable. Some of Stainers violins are a bit bigger. It would be nice to know how long the one that led the LSO for over a decade was. 

In any case, studying the available resources, and hopefully an original or two in person, with a view to internalizing the architecture and design philosophy should allow you to make a very good violin of any size.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, JacksonMaberry said:

The Hargrave article are invaluable, as are the technical drawings from the NMM Stainer violin. 

I don't share your reluctance - instruments of that size can be very capable. Some of Stainers violins are a bit bigger. It would be nice to know how long the one that led the LSO for over a decade was. 

In any case, studying the available resources, and hopefully an original or two in person, with a view to internalizing the architecture and design philosophy should allow you to make a very good violin of any size.

Regarding sizes I just mind the common perception of acceptable sizes that's all. Doesn't matter what I personally think or if small instruments are can be quite capable.

I know Stainer made some instruments a little larger and close to 355 so why take a template where it is predicable that players will have reservations (justified or not)?

The NMM drawings look great but $100 for a PDF file will have me try other avenues before I swallow that pill. Anyone know the LOB of that one?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Personally, I do not use templates. I prefer the flexibility that a straight edge and dividers affords. The same rules govern Stainers larger and smaller violins - if you really understand the rules you can play the game at whatever LoB you desire (obviously, within reason). 

If you would prefer free resources, take a look at the outlines that Addie provided. They can be found here or on Peter K-G's site. You will have to shell out for at least the Strad poster if you want any idea of the arching and grad scheme, but I hope you'll consider the NMM document. More samples makes for a better model.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.