Help, wolf note

[elcuervo]

Hello, first of all, I would like to clarify that I am occupying the Google translator, because I do not speak English.

I am from Chile (South America), and in these places there is very little information about the so-called "wolf note", that's why I resorted to a forum in English, because there is very little Hispanic information about it.

I recently acquired a new violin, it is a professional range, it has a very well designed and powerful sound, with a large volume, but it has a horrible problem, is that it has a "wolf tone" between the note C / C #, of the string A.

The "wolf tone" is between the C and the C #, that is in the frequency 540hz. This is not a note that is usual to play (because it is between the two notes), but even so, the wolf tone moves towards the note C when the arch passes slowly or do not apply vibratto.

This is quite annoying and it has me very frustrated, because the C / C # notes are very common notes of any song in first position, and every time I play I'm nervously  about the fact that the wolf can "howl".

That is why I have to practice a very pronounced vibrato and also worry about having an absolutely perfect tuning, so that the wolf does not sound.

There is very little information in Spanish on the internet about this problem. Nor can I visit a -luthier-, because in my city (and country), there is little culture about violins and their manufacture.

I have tried to solve this on my own and I have had few results.

Of course, something that draws my attention, is that when I remove the chinrest, and leave the violin without chinrest and play it, the "wolf tone " disappears completely

I suppose the problem is in the lower left part of the lid, I say it, because when I press that part of the violin with my chin and shoulder, the wolf disappears - totally - but when I put the violin the chinrest and the shoulder support, in the absence of pressure, the wolf returns to sound.

I do not know if I have managed to explain it correctly

 

I have seen that you use devices that attach to the strings that eliminate the wolf tones. In my country it is very complicated to acquire those devices and the only way is to buy them in another country, so if they really work, I could buy one, if they recommend it to me

I do not know what options you recommend me, any information is grateful

 

 

 

 

 

[Televet]

Before doing anything else, take the clue from the chinrest and shoulder rest. Explore different chin rests. Centre mount vs side mount and see how that affects the wolf. Pretty subtle changes can sometimes make big differences.

[Marty Kasprzyk]

Wedge a soft rubber eraser under your chin rest to apply pressure to the violin's top plate.

[ClefLover]

If these other applications do not work for you, try one of these:

http://metzlerviolins.com/new-harmony-1-gram-violin-or-viola-wolf-note-suppressor-brass/dp/24978?gdffi=39c89fee27314d6484a6472c60cc2915&gdfms=6C98DB401ACA4EDD802D644148C695A4&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp24978&sc_intid=24978&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwKiFl6j-2wIVC7XACh1x_QgrEAQYASABEgI9V_D_BwE

 

One if my violins has a pretty bad wolf tone and, despite soundpost adjustments, continued to affect the frequencies.  This 1 gram eliminator worked for me!

[Pate Bliss]

I had to use a violin with a bad wolf note for awhile, and I know the feeling about playing it you describe.  Some of the suggestions here might improve it, but if not, I suggest returning it because it is a miserable situation.  If the setup is different than it was when you bought it, try to get it returned to the original setup and see what it's like.

[Peter K-G]

On 6/29/2018 at 6:01 AM, elcuervo said:

Hello, first of all, I would like to clarify that I am occupying the Google translator, because I do not speak English.

I am from Chile (South America), and in these places there is very little information about the so-called "wolf note", that's why I resorted to a forum in English, because there is very little Hispanic information about it.

I recently acquired a new violin, it is a professional range, it has a very well designed and powerful sound, with a large volume, but it has a horrible problem, is that it has a "wolf tone" between the note C / C #, of the string A.

The "wolf tone" is between the C and the C #, that is in the frequency 540hz. This is not a note that is usual to play (because it is between the two notes), but even so, the wolf tone moves towards the note C when the arch passes slowly or do not apply vibratto.

This is quite annoying and it has me very frustrated, because the C / C # notes are very common notes of any song in first position, and every time I play I'm nervously  about the fact that the wolf can "howl".

That is why I have to practice a very pronounced vibrato and also worry about having an absolutely perfect tuning, so that the wolf does not sound.

There is very little information in Spanish on the internet about this problem. Nor can I visit a -luthier-, because in my city (and country), there is little culture about violins and their manufacture.

I have tried to solve this on my own and I have had few results.

Of course, something that draws my attention, is that when I remove the chinrest, and leave the violin without chinrest and play it, the "wolf tone " disappears completely

I suppose the problem is in the lower left part of the lid, I say it, because when I press that part of the violin with my chin and shoulder, the wolf disappears - totally - but when I put the violin the chinrest and the shoulder support, in the absence of pressure, the wolf returns to sound.

I do not know if I have managed to explain it correctly

 

I have seen that you use devices that attach to the strings that eliminate the wolf tones. In my country it is very complicated to acquire those devices and the only way is to buy them in another country, so if they really work, I could buy one, if they recommend it to me

I do not know what options you recommend me, any information is grateful

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.thestradsound.com/research/wolf-note

 

 

[christian bayon]

Congratulations Elcuervo,you bought a good violin and you are discovering the problems associated to that kind of instruments.

[Mat Roop]

Try one of these... http://rezx.biz/violin/solutions#rezx ... the wide range of ajustability may lead you to a permanent solution

Good luck!... Mat

 

[elcuervo]

 

I read all your comments and I appreciate it I will try to buy a wig of 1 gram to add it to the chain Meanwhile, try a new lateral support and a new shoulder rest. I discovered that for a strange reason, the old shoulder rest that I had, caused the wolf, I have removed this shoulder rest and the wolf has gone almost completely. A solution that I appreciate is to add a little rubber under the chin, because the extra weight that exerts, eleminina the wolf almost completely Using a bit of vibrato and fine tuning the note, the wolf does not howl Thanks for your comments

Edited July 10, 2018 by elcuervo
I wrote in Spanish and I did not realize hehe