Hamberger Adjustable Soundpost for Violin

[mood2000]

hello guys , 

have any one tried this soundpost ?

Hamberger Soundpost - Installation Instructions

 

 

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Hamberger Soundpost - Removal Instructions

[jacobsaunders]

I suppose it would always be easier to get a well fitting soundpost of any sort, if you saw the bottom third of the violin off 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mike Spencer]

[FoxMitchell]

These composite soundposts raise so many questions! ...such as why are they so expensive?  

[Stavanger]

From their webpage: Cut, grind, polish. Doesnt that take away a bit of the «whole point» ?

 

[deans]

13 minutes ago, FoxMitchell said:

such as why are they so expensive?

They are pretty pricey. But it aint cheap these days to have a traditional post fit by a good luthier. This cost is equal to about three normal post fittings and sometimes that's how many a player will need before settling in on one.

I like the idea, but for some reason I cant see myself living with a violin that has one of these inside

[PASEWICZ]

8 minutes ago, deans said:

They are pretty pricey. But it aint cheap these days to have a traditional post fit by a good luthier. This cost is equal to about three normal post fittings and sometimes that's how many a player will need before settling in on one.

I like the idea, but for some reason I cant see myself living with a violin that has one of these inside

Are you saying it takes three posts to get one right?  Not trying to put you on the spot, but is that what you are saying?  If so, I would love to explore the process and when you feel it is right.

 

 

[deans]

8 minutes ago, Jerry Pasewicz said:

Are you saying it takes three posts to get one right?

No, but I guess I shouldn't have used the term "right".  I don't consider myself that picky, but I know players that have had many posts cut before they got what they wanted, and are still always heading to the shop for adjustments.

But  I do have  instruments where I have a long and short post that I switch from time to time. They are both "right" I guess.

[duane88]

Sometimes the violin "needs" 3 posts to sound "right", and sometimes the violinist need 3 posts to sound right.

[deans]

To dig a deeper hole for myself, what many shops consider "right" is way too tight.

[PASEWICZ]

23 minutes ago, deans said:

To dig a deeper hole for myself, what many shops consider "right" is way too tight.

I agreee, that is certainly a deeper hole.

[Violadamore]

1 hour ago, deans said:

I don't consider myself that picky, but I know players that have had many posts cut before they got what they wanted, and are still always heading to the shop for adjustments.

Is your shop next to a psychotherapist's office?  "Location, location, location...."

[duane88]

56 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

Is your shop next to a psychotherapist's office?  "Location, location, location...."

 I was a Nurse in my former profession. Also, there is a Vet's office next to an English Pub downstairs. It's all covered.

 

[devaraja42]

1 hour ago, duane88 said:

Sometimes the violin "needs" 3 posts to sound "right", and sometimes the violinist need 3 posts to sound right.

There's the story about René Morel and the pencil soundpost ...

[Don Noon]

Similar recent thread on expensive soundpost: 

 

[Violadamore]

My first thought when I saw the thread title (and, yes, I know the sandwich is spelled "hamburger") was "Wow! How do ya squeeze a Big Mac through the f-hole???".

[Evan Smith]

one itty bitty bite at a time

Evan the Nibbler

[Evan Smith]

It's an unbelievably weird idea,,, the sound post thingie,,   like something I might come up with,,,,,,,,,,,,, but come to my senses before
I fully embarrass myself again.

That's what I say,, just give it up,, damn it Evan just give it up! Quit thinking so hard, I'ze wearing out the gearz!

[JacksonMaberry]

This does not look to be that much faster than a normal soundpost. Does it sound?

[Davide Sora]

I foresee a lot of work in soundpost patching for restorers if the adjustment tools are left in the hands of "experimenters" violinists to play with the tension of these soundpost.

Please, not on my violins....
 

[PASEWICZ]

47 minutes ago, Davide Sora said:

 

I foresee a lot of work in soundpost patching for restorers if the adjustment tools are left in the hands of "experimenters" violinists to play with the tension of these soundpost.

Please, not on my violins....
 

 But just think, then we can put in carbon fiber soundpost patches!

[martin swan]

56 minutes ago, Davide Sora said:

 

I foresee a lot of work in soundpost patching for restorers if the adjustment tools are left in the hands of "experimenters" violinists to play with the tension of these soundpost.

Please, not on my violins....
 

This soundpost was developed in collaboration with Chi-Mei precisely because of the need to avoid damage to the internal surfaces of a historic instrument. The feet are always in 100% contact with the plates.

With conventional posts there are no mechanisms in place to prevent amateurs or even great set-up maestros from buggering up a table with an overlong post.

I was introduced to this post by one of the inventors/developers about 3 months ago, and we were very quickly able to improve the sound of a couple of rather temperamental violins. 

[duane88]

cave.pdf

Almost 25 years ago...

[Rue]

So the better mousetrap is actually better?

[duane88]

17 minutes ago, Rue said:

So the better mousetrap is actually better?

Different, yes. Better, don't know. But, for a 300+ buck soundpost it won't be getting too much exposure in my shop. File it away with the $1500US cello end pin and housing that I saw last year.