jandepora

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This time I need help with this bow. It looks to me Germany, but the not very well aligned pins and the cut of the ferule make me think that maybe I am wrong.

What is your opinion

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Its a French `tourte` model they were produced by many workshops such as Bazin, Morizot, Cuniot-Hury, etc...  Its abeille wood. looks rather standard grade, the better ones are usually heavily stamped TOURTE.

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9 hours ago, uncle duke said:

I thought French too but why no chamfering around the tip area - very un-Cuniot/Bazin like.

Maybe because the head plate is unfinished.

Then, it would be difficult to ascribe to any workshop or maker?

What about the age? 

How works this kind of bows?

 

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More geese than swans now live, more fools than wise ....

As Jeffrey pointed out, the rounded rear chamfers are a feature of this head shape. Fiddlecollector once posted some great photos of swan heads showing how many makers had followed this model.

I suppose the majority of swan head bows I have seen are by Charles Nicholas Bazin. This one is a lower level trade Mirecourt bow, but still quite pretty.

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Just now, martin swan said:

More geese than swans now live, more fools than wise ....

As Jeffrey pointed out, the rounded rear chamfers are a feature of this head shape. Fiddlecollector once posted some great photos of swan heads showing how many makers had followed this model.

I suppose the majority of swan head bows I have seen are by Charles Nicholas Bazin. This one is a lower level trade Mirecourt bow, but still quite pretty.

Touché, Martin!  A Swan quoting Gibbons, even. :lol:

I'd wondered when you'd comment on this bow.  Informative, as usual.  :)

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1 hour ago, jandepora said:

Maybe because the head plate is unfinished.

Then, it would be difficult to ascribe to any workshop or maker?

What about the age? 

How works this kind of bows?

 

I understand now Jeffrey.

Well there's always Lamy and the entire Bazin family and workers-  all I can do is make guesses.

How about 1920's to 1960's - just a guess friend.

61 - 62 grams would be tough to beat especially if balance point is spot on for comfort.  It's hard to tell from here.

I didn't notice any silver winding.  Is  there any?  

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On 12/1/2018 at 11:37 PM, uncle duke said:

I understand now Jeffrey.

Well there's always Lamy and the entire Bazin family and workers-  all I can do is make guesses.

How about 1920's to 1960's - just a guess friend.

61 - 62 grams would be tough to beat especially if balance point is spot on for comfort.  It's hard to tell from here.

I didn't notice any silver winding.  Is  there any?  

It has this kind of lapping. What material could be?

It looks like it has a name in the stick but too erased. Any idea?

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2 hours ago, jandepora said:

It has this kind of lapping. What material could be?

It looks like it has a name in the stick but too erased. Any idea?

Not sure about the lapping.

I too tried to see remnants of lettering - no idea either.

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There are nearly always stamped TOURTE no matter which shop/maker made them. I can can see a very faint impression of a stamp which is probably tourte. They are usually quite heavily stamped in the better quality ones.

The lapping is possibly baleen (so called whalebone ) but may be a synthetic version. I get a general impression of a Morizot freres workshop bow but some of these are hard to tell apart.

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