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More geese than swans now live, more fools than wise ....

As Jeffrey pointed out, the rounded rear chamfers are a feature of this head shape. Fiddlecollector once posted some great photos of swan heads showing how many makers had followed this model.

I suppose the majority of swan head bows I have seen are by Charles Nicholas Bazin. This one is a lower level trade Mirecourt bow, but still quite pretty.

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Just now, martin swan said:

More geese than swans now live, more fools than wise ....

As Jeffrey pointed out, the rounded rear chamfers are a feature of this head shape. Fiddlecollector once posted some great photos of swan heads showing how many makers had followed this model.

I suppose the majority of swan head bows I have seen are by Charles Nicholas Bazin. This one is a lower level trade Mirecourt bow, but still quite pretty.

Touché, Martin!  A Swan quoting Gibbons, even. :lol:

I'd wondered when you'd comment on this bow.  Informative, as usual.  :)

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1 hour ago, jandepora said:

Maybe because the head plate is unfinished.

Then, it would be difficult to ascribe to any workshop or maker?

What about the age? 

How works this kind of bows?

 

I understand now Jeffrey.

Well there's always Lamy and the entire Bazin family and workers-  all I can do is make guesses.

How about 1920's to 1960's - just a guess friend.

61 - 62 grams would be tough to beat especially if balance point is spot on for comfort.  It's hard to tell from here.

I didn't notice any silver winding.  Is  there any?  

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On 12/1/2018 at 11:37 PM, uncle duke said:

I understand now Jeffrey.

Well there's always Lamy and the entire Bazin family and workers-  all I can do is make guesses.

How about 1920's to 1960's - just a guess friend.

61 - 62 grams would be tough to beat especially if balance point is spot on for comfort.  It's hard to tell from here.

I didn't notice any silver winding.  Is  there any?  

It has this kind of lapping. What material could be?

It looks like it has a name in the stick but too erased. Any idea?

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There are nearly always stamped TOURTE no matter which shop/maker made them. I can can see a very faint impression of a stamp which is probably tourte. They are usually quite heavily stamped in the better quality ones.

The lapping is possibly baleen (so called whalebone ) but may be a synthetic version. I get a general impression of a Morizot freres workshop bow but some of these are hard to tell apart.

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  • 7 months later...

Martin is supposed to be the most qualified person to set a trend here;).

In German there's only the term Schwanenhals (neck), too, for this model, and a quick google research produces actually more results for swan neck bow.

BTW, I can't see any real affinity neither to the bird's neck nor head, if any than more to a duck's tail.:ph34r:

 

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55 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

Like!  :lol:

I've been slightly confused by this whole thread.   Isn't a "swan head" bow one of those graceful baroque and transitional things, like the one in the middle below? :huh:

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Or it might be named after Edith Swanneshals, the woman who identified King Harold's body at Hastings? (related to you, Martin?;))

http://blog.english-heritage.org.uk/1066-women-behind-game-thrones/

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