BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 What are your thoughts about this scroll that I photographed? I had a chance to grab a hold of this instrument and bang these out, I only had 30 seconds to work in a crowded area so the images are not perfect, sorry about that. Register your thoughts about the object in these photos. Am I exaggerating or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vathek Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 My thoughts would be rather transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, vathek said: My thoughts would be rather transparent. Please accept my deepest apologies, my liege. Attached, please find the missing images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Allen Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 It is rather nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Nick Allen said: It is rather nice. You, sir, are rather nice. Thank you for your kind response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlVcl Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 You're not exaggerating; it's stunningly beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Hold it - hold it better tight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Blank face said: Hold it - hold it better tight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, AtlVcl said: You're not exaggerating; it's stunningly beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, BassClef said: It looks as if somebody has bounced it to a sharp corner before.... (or imitation?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Very nice scroll, aside from the shape suggesting that some material was shaved off the top of the pegbox, probably when resurfacing the fingerboard gluing surface with a plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Blank face said: It looks as if somebody has bounced it to a sharp corner before.... (or imitation?) I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, BassClef said: I give up. That's what can happen without a tight grip: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilg Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 the longer you look at it, the nicer it gets do you have front and back photos as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, Emilg said: the longer you look at it, the nicer it gets do you have front and back photos as well? I will check and report back later tonight. Thanks for your comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Cossmann Cooke Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I've always liked the narrowness at the "nape" of the neck holding up the head. It gives a flow that is not present in some of the more muscular scrolls seen in the work of many of The Ancients. The latter can end up looking more like the old White Sox player and TX native, No Neck Williams by comparison. OK, so maybe a bit more graceful looking than No Neck. Here's an example by the Bolognese, Guidantus, though his whole pegbox profile is pretty narrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, David Burgess said: Very nice scroll, aside from the shape suggesting that some material was shaved off the top of the pegbox, probably when resurfacing the fingerboard gluing surface with a plane. So accidental or purposeful reshaping? Modern antiquing technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Blank face said: An excelent specimin of "Screwdriver Ageing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Emilg said: the longer you look at it, the nicer it gets do you have front and back photos as well? Again, pardon me for the focusing issues, this was a very quick and stealthy photo shoot, one that may or may not have been authorized. What is this scroll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: An excelent specimin of "Screwdriver Ageing" What are the origins of this "Screwdriver Ageing" antiquing technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Julian Cossmann Cooke said: I've always liked the narrowness at the "nape" of the neck holding up the head. It gives a flow that is not present in some of the more muscular scrolls seen in the work of many of The Ancients. The latter can end up looking more like the old White Sox player and TX native, No Neck Williams by comparison. OK, so maybe a bit more graceful looking than No Neck. Here's an example by the Bolognese, Guidantus, though his whole pegbox profile is pretty narrow. The peg tip on the lower string peg of the OP instrument is similar in style to the ones on the violin you posted. Have you seen this style before? Is it indicative of any particular style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 hours ago, BassClef said: Please accept my deepest apologies, my liege. Attached, please find the missing images. I'll probably get flamed for this, but I actually don't like how the the curve of the throat approaches the head. The curve on the peg box side (in the throat area) seams discordant with the curve opposite the pegbox opening. The second picture looks better, but I think it's because it's held at an angle so the impression of a less open throat is actually from the opposite side. Just being nit picky as I learn to focus on details. I'd be more than happy if I made this scroll. Sorry for being a stick in the mud. -Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arglebargle Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 you son of a b**ch. How dare you have an aesthetic opinion that doesn't conform with mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 37 minutes ago, arglebargle said: you son of a b**ch. How dare you have an aesthetic opinion that doesn't conform with mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilg Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 hours ago, BassClef said: Again, pardon me for the focusing issues, this was a very quick and stealthy photo shoot, one that may or may not have been authorized. What is this scroll? Thank you very much sir, nice scroll indeed! How do you call the heel of the pegbox, isn't that typical for cello's? Edit: it's called the "chin" i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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