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violinsRus

Georg Tiefenbrunner violin

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I know there have been a lot of falsely labeled Tiefenbrunner's out there, but just wondering if this one could be authentic.  I can't find any Tiefenbrunner pictures to compare it to, but I'm sure there are examples in books somewhere!  :)

The scroll is grafted, and I've added the fingerboard and ebony crown since these photos.  So it's ready for touch-up.  The blocks and rib corners are inside mold Mittenwald, the scroll is about 5mm narrow and rather distinctive!  Remembering that this maker was a zither maker in Munchen, and only ventured into violins later.  The lower bout is two pieces.  The date on the label is hard to read, but I can read that it's 1840's label.  There is an ebony inset in the treble belly edge.  Other belly cracks have been closed up tight.  The back is fabulous IMO. 

Thanks!

-Oops, posted in wrong forum, sorry about that.  And I forgot to have my angel hold it up for close inspection!  :lol: 

 

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Maybe you're confusing the name with Tieffenbrucker(latinized Dieffobruckar etc.) from Lyon 16th century? There were two Georg Tieffenbrunners in the late 19th/early 20th century in Mittenwald and Munich, both dealing with the usual Mittenwald home workers made violins (Verleger), also Markneukirchen Dutzendware and zithers, not very common to be faked much.

Your violin looks more like saxon made (screwdriver antiqued), while a product of Mittenwald could look like this, label of the Munich's cousin:

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Thanks BF, I think you you are right about the saxon origin, although cornerblockology looks Mittenwald rather than MNK.  Definitely not BOB.

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9 hours ago, violinsRus said:

Thanks BF, I think you you are right about the saxon origin, although cornerblockology looks Mittenwald rather than MNK.  Definitely not BOB.

If the cornerblocks are assymetrical, shorter in the middle bots, and the linings are morticed into them, it's not Mnk or Schönbach.

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got some pics of the interior, blocks look shorter in middle bouts to me.  These are the lower blocks, the only ones I could capture without standing on my head with this endoscope.  I cannot rightly tell if the center bout linings are mortised in, maybe someone has experience interpreting pics like these.  Tx

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6 hours ago, violinsRus said:

got some pics of the interior, blocks look shorter in middle bouts to me.  These are the lower blocks, the only ones I could capture without standing on my head with this endoscope.  I cannot rightly tell if the center bout linings are mortised in, maybe someone has experience interpreting pics like these.  Tx

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It's not 100% clear by the photos, but it looks like symmatrical blocks, the linings cut, not morticed, ergo not Mittenwald 19th century.

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