carl1961

Almost Hopeless Violin

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carl1961   

A recent no name violin, no corner blocks and integrated bass bar. I already cut the bas bar out and cleaned the dirty seams, waiting a day to let the seams dry before gluing one piece at a time and adding clets. no cracks in peg box, but sure is ugly from where it must have had a geared peg keys.

 

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What is hopeless about it? You have something similar to a Meisel, first half of the 19th C. I can see no reason why you chopped the bass bar out, why do you imagine that your (not yet) stuck in one will be even remotely better?

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carl1961   
37 minutes ago, FoxMitchell said:

Looks like you're gonna be having fun!

What did you clean the dirty seams with? Just water or something else?

just used hot water on a folded paper towel

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carl1961   
26 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

What is hopeless about it? You have something similar to a Meisel, first half of the 19th C. I can see no reason why you chopped the bass bar out, why do you imagine that your (not yet) stuck in one will be even remotely better?

bass bar was horrible, 10mm wide and short at each end

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3 hours ago, Frank Nichols said:

No corner blocks means built on back?

Possibly, my understanding has been that it usually means outside mold. 

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2 hours ago, cjankowski said:

Possibly, my understanding has been that it usually means outside mold. 

No it doesn't.

The OP violins rib Cage was built using the traditional Schönbach/Markneukirchen method on the back, without any mould.

 

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Great! Read the info you had shared from a previous discussion. 

Makes sense to me.

Was there a school or style of making that at one point used an outside form and did not use corner blocks? While nothing is always certain but is it a pretty good bet then that no corner blocks most always is built on back without form? 

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56 minutes ago, cjankowski said:

 

Was there a school or style of making that at one point used an outside form and did not use corner blocks?

Not to my knowledge

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I have noticed some of the ones with no corner blocks have through necks and some have neck blocks? Same camp different time or different camps altogether? 

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carl1961   
6 minutes ago, TimRobinson said:

A little off topic, but I recently stumbled across this video and I hadn't seen an outside mould being used before.

Tim

your link did not stick

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carl1961   
1 hour ago, Evan Smith said:

What is this gouge called?

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Addie?

Evan Smith I do not or did not know either, but this picture maybe shows it as a  in channel type

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That type of gouge makes it much easier to cut the fluting after the purfling is installed. It cuts against the grain much better than a finger nail type end. There is less risk of tearing.

 

You can easily make one yourself by grinding the centre back, to create the cutting wings.

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carl1961   
5 hours ago, FoxMitchell said:

Ooh it's coming back together! :)

Great job!

yes it's strung up, has a soft tone, sorry for the horrible playing. I have some finger boards coming in the mail, the one on the violin has a bow at the end where it hangs over that neck. also bridge is a test bridge too a little too flat so I hit the next strings while playing.

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Emilg   

Nice, well done! wasn't that hopeless afterall :)

I see you have the exact same brand of broomstick assembly clamps i have, even the cork looks the same..:lol:

Btw: i read that Michael Darnton advises not to use 4 fine tuners because the total weight acts like a mute. Maybe stick to 1 or 2?

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Came out great! :)

I'm also against the use of 4 fine tuners, but to each their own.

So, what happens to it next? Do you sell them, give them away, or just add them to your collection?

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carl1961   
35 minutes ago, FoxMitchell said:

Came out great! :)

I'm also against the use of 4 fine tuners, but to each their own.

So, what happens to it next? Do you sell them, give them away, or just add them to your collection?

Thanks.  I haven't decided, what to do with them yet. Have to replace this finger board, 

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