violins andrew hyde violin

[franzviolia]

I NEED SOME INFO ON A IMPROVED BY ANDREW HYDE NORTHAMPTON MASS VIOLIN 1894 CAN SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT HIS WORK.

[uncle duke]

Hyde, Andrew    Northampton, Ma., 1895     Said to be a fairly good modern maker.

Quoting from his "Treatise on Violin"  he says he makes copies of the great G.P. Magginni? , whoever he may of chanced to be.

 

[David Burgess]

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing:

"Besides all this, the cost of a good new violin is not unreasonable in comparison with that of many a dirty looking dilapidated old tub that for sanitary reasons, if no other should have been buried years ago. How disgusting to see a beautiful and fastidious lady violinist hugging to her breast one of these filthy relics of a past age. It is horrible to think where it has been the past two centuries. Who has used it, and where? Who can tell its story? Held under the chin, breathed into, saturated with the sweat, filth and odor of cripples and tramps, street and gutter musicians that have perhaps used it for centuries. Played in dens, dives and brothels. A receptacle for foul and malignant diseases, rotting with accumulated grime and poisonous moisture, a hideous thing indeed to contemplate."

[Jim Bress]

59 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing:

"Besides all this, the cost of a good new violin is not unreasonable in comparison with that of many a dirty looking dilapidated old tub that for sanitary reasons, if no other should have been buried years ago. How disgusting to see a beautiful and fastidious lady violinist hugging to her breast one of these filthy relics of a past age. It is horrible to think where it has been the past two centuries. Who has used it, and where? Who can tell its story? Held under the chin, breathed into, saturated with the sweat, filth and odor of cripples and tramps, street and gutter musicians that have perhaps used it for centuries. Played in dens, dives and brothels. A receptacle for foul and malignant diseases, rotting with accumulated grime and poisonous moisture, a hideous thing indeed to contemplate."

I'd pay to see that movie.  It sounds like that violin had some good times in interesting places.

[Don Noon]

58 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing: ...

  Too bad he's not alive today to appreciate shiny carbon fiber violins that can be sterilized in an autoclave.

1 minute ago, Jim Bress said:

I'd pay to see that movie.  It sounds like that violin some good times in interesting places.

That was "The Red Violin".  You can rent it.

[GeorgeH]

1 hour ago, David Burgess said:

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing:

"Besides all this, the cost of a good new violin is not unreasonable in comparison with that of many a dirty looking dilapidated old tub that for sanitary reasons, if no other should have been buried years ago. How disgusting to see a beautiful and fastidious lady violinist hugging to her breast one of these filthy relics of a past age. It is horrible to think where it has been the past two centuries. Who has used it, and where? Who can tell its story? Held under the chin, breathed into, saturated with the sweat, filth and odor of cripples and tramps, street and gutter musicians that have perhaps used it for centuries. Played in dens, dives and brothels. A receptacle for foul and malignant diseases, rotting with accumulated grime and poisonous moisture, a hideous thing indeed to contemplate."

This describes exactly the charm of old violins. I only hope that I can continue to add to the charm of the old violins I own. 

And, David, what joy you must feel when you release one of your beautiful violins into the filthy, sordid, and depraved world that is its destiny!

[Jim Bress]

1 minute ago, Don Noon said:

  Too bad he's not alive today to appreciate shiny carbon fiber violins that can be sterilized in an autoclave.

That was "The Red Violin".  You can rent it.

I saw that movie and enjoyed it.  I think Hyde's hypothetical violin would be an "R" rated movie.    I do find it interesting when quotes from the past can easily fit into today's society in-spite of the changes between then and now.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise." -Plato

[apartmentluthier]

I believe this would have been his "shop adjusted" violin.  Bought in the white and varnished, etc.  

[FiddleDoug]

4 hours ago, David Burgess said:

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing:

"Besides all this, the cost of a good new violin is not unreasonable in comparison with that of many a dirty looking dilapidated old tub that for sanitary reasons, if no other should have been buried years ago. How disgusting to see a beautiful and fastidious lady violinist hugging to her breast one of these filthy relics of a past age. It is horrible to think where it has been the past two centuries. Who has used it, and where? Who can tell its story? Held under the chin, breathed into, saturated with the sweat, filth and odor of cripples and tramps, street and gutter musicians that have perhaps used it for centuries. Played in dens, dives and brothels. A receptacle for foul and malignant diseases, rotting with accumulated grime and poisonous moisture, a hideous thing indeed to contemplate."

Must have been talking about one of those nasty old Strads.   

 

[Jeff Jetson]

I think the quoted amusing passage by Andrew Hyde is a convincing argument to buy new and think that he must have been a superb salesman. 

[David Burgess]

18 hours ago, Jim Bress said:

I'd pay to see that movie.  It sounds like that violin had some good times in interesting places.

 

18 hours ago, Don Noon said:

That was "The Red Violin".  You can rent it.

That's pretty tame compared to musician Blair Tindall's salacious tell-all book, MOZART IN THE JUNGLE: SEX, DRUGS AND CLASSICAL MUSIC. which then became a TV series.

A review:

http://www.chron.com/life/article/Blair-Tindall-s-dark-memoir-of-sex-drugs-and-1625759.php.

[PASEWICZ]

1 hour ago, David Burgess said:

 

That's pretty tame compared to musician Blair Tindall's salacious tell-all book, MOZART IN THE JUNGLE: SEX, DRUGS AND CLASSICAL MUSIC. which then became a TV series.

A review:

http://www.chron.com/life/article/Blair-Tindall-s-dark-memoir-of-sex-drugs-and-1625759.php.

Interesting reading the reviewer's conclusions in this 2006 write up knowing now that Amazon produced the series and it has since won 2 Golden globes and an Emmy.  I wonder if he "did not fulfill" his "life's dream" with the same critically acclaimed success.

[Quadibloc]

On 5/12/2017 at 2:07 PM, FiddleDoug said:

Must have been talking about one of those nasty old Strads.

Precisely.

However, the last time any six-million dollar Stradivarius was played by a busker was likely within the lifetime of Luigi Tarisio. One would think that any pathogenic micro-organisms which require a human host to multiply would have died out in two hundred years or so.

And, of course, since the time of Andrew Hyde, we have new disinfecting techniques that don't risk damaging an instrument. Thus, to avoid damaging the micro-electronics, ethylene dioxide was used to disinfect Mars probes, and it was actually mentioned here in a thread about a violin left in an unheated shed. Given the prices Strads go for, perhaps Tarisio.com and Florian Leonhard et al could spring for such equipment if necessary.

[Pate Bliss]

Nothing fits the description better than Mr. Hyde's own life's work now.

[Andreas Preuss]

On May 13, 29 Heisei at 12:44 AM, David Burgess said:

I can tell you that he wrote something rather amusing:

 

Makes me wonder where my violins will land in the future. 

[FoxMitchell]

On 5/8/2018 at 2:23 PM, Quadibloc said:

However, the last time any six-million dollar Stradivarius was played by a busker was likely within the lifetime of Luigi Tarisio. [...]

Does Joshua Bell count as a busker?