mapfluke Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Anyone have any sort of knowledge or info on this label? I just decided to throw in the picture of the back plate because I really like it. Thanks in advance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad Dorsey Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I see these labels occasionally. I have a 7/8 violin labeled like this right now including the separate "Made in Germany," I can specifically recall seeing a viola and I'm sure I've seen a few others. I think it's pretty safe to assume that Julius Herberlein is a trade name, not a real maker. Oliver Ditson was a big music publisher and instrument dealer. Among other things, they sold guitars and mandolins made for them by Martin and violins made for them by Wilkanowski. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duane88 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 He's listed in the Brompton's book as a real maker, but the ones that I have seen and sold look like German trade instruments. The Heberlein name seems to me to be an attempt at linking the instrument to the better known and higher quality Heberlein workshop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
koda Posted September 30, 2018 Report Share Posted September 30, 2018 Julius Heberlein was definitely a real maker. His instruments made after his association with the Oliver Ditson Company became much more commercial. I have a violin he built containing a generic Strad label dated Sept of 1904. The violin is hand signed on the inside of the top, upper bass side. It is a beautiful work and sounds amazing. I'm not sure what year he started with Oliver Ditson, but I'm sure that as orders increased the shop grew and quality suffered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GlenV Posted May 18, 2019 Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 On 9/30/2018 at 3:11 PM, koda said: Julius Heberlein was definitely a real maker. His instruments made after his association with the Oliver Ditson Company became much more commercial. I have a violin he built containing a generic Strad label dated Sept of 1904. The violin is hand signed on the inside of the top, upper bass side. It is a beautiful work and sounds amazing. I'm not sure what year he started with Oliver Ditson, but I'm sure that as orders increased the shop grew and quality suffered. Here is my contribution to this post: And here's what is found where a label had previously been fixed: The violin is beautiful and the sound is amazing. It would seem that this might also be one of his earlier violins. I am blessed to be able to play it nearly everyday. Any information anyone might have on this maker or where he fits in with the rest of the family would be appreciated. I'm not as worried about the value of the violin -- I'm trying to learn its history. Thanks! Glen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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