Don Noon Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, David Holbrook said: I have 2 violins underway built off the Huberman poster. I do love the story, and the violin. I used the Huberman poster to make my P form, but I won't be copying the graduations. Personally, the sound of the Huberman isn't my favorite; maybe it's completely a different experience when playing it, but that's not gonna happen.
David Burgess Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 10 hours ago, carl stross said: . He bought it because it suddenly opened for him endless possibilities, the instrument stopped being an obstacle in expressing his deeper emotions, the most subtle nuances of tone and instead became an almost equal participant in the creative act. And not that he did not try a cart load of violins before. My current roughing gouge suddenly opened for me endless possibilities, the gouge stopped being an obstacle in expressing my deeper emotions, the most subtle nuances of bulk material removal and instead became an almost equal participant in the creative act. And not that I did not try a cart load of gouges before.
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, David Burgess said: My current roughing gouge suddenly opened for me endless possibilities, the gouge stopped being an obstacle in expressing my deeper emotions, the most subtle nuances of bulk material removal and instead became an almost equal participant in the creative act. And not that I did not try a cart load of gouges before. I I believe you, that's a BIG tool and in trained hands must be very satisfying to use. I remember seeing a movie with it.
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Don Noon said: Personally, the sound of the Huberman isn't my favorite One advantage when it comes to Strads is that one needs not bother with that sort of decision. One simply adds THAT sound to one's definition of GREAT.
GeorgeH Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, carl stross said: One advantage when it comes to Strads is that one needs not bother with that sort of decision. One simply adds THAT sound to one's definition of GREAT. In this particular violin, it is the residues of the shoe polish that have seeped into the finish that give it the GREAT sound. Probably something that should be tried by modern makers to recreate this GREAT sound. Another Strad secret pro tip: Red shoe polish is best applied using a "spit shine" technique.
GeorgeH Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 13 hours ago, carl stross said: But Josh Bell didn't buy the violin because of the story. He bought it because it suddenly opened for him endless possibilities... Exactly. Like, who would write stories about what violin he was playing when he was busking in the Washington, D.C. subways if he wasn't playing a Strad?
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, GeorgeH said: In this particular violin, it is the residues of the shoe polish that have seeped into the finish that give it the GREAT sound. Probably something that should be tried by modern makers to recreate this GREAT sound. Another Strad secret pro tip: Red shoe polish is best applied using a "spit shine" technique. 16 minutes ago, GeorgeH said: Exactly. Like, who would write stories about what violin he was playing when he was busking in the Washington, D.C. subways if he wasn't playing a Strad? I see you understand these things. You're not a dealer by any chance ??
Urban Luthier Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 15 hours ago, David Burgess said: Violin makers tend more to be "do it yourself" folks. Was thinking about burying myself in the permafrost of the frozen tundra. Toronto is only a short drive from here. Sorry to disappoint you but the weather up here isn't all that colder than Ann Arbour!
Antoine Nedelec Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 16 hours ago, carl stross said: That's true , it's a GREAT story. But Josh Bell didn't buy the violin because of the story. He bought it because it suddenly opened for him endless possibilities, the instrument stopped being an obstacle in expressing his deeper emotions, the most subtle nuances of tone and instead became an almost equal participant in the creative act. And not that he did not try a cart load of violins before. Funny because the instrument he played before was also a Stradivari. Are you saying it didn't offer endless possibilities? That can't be.
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, Antoine Nedelec said: Funny because the instrument he played before was also a Stradivari. Are you saying it didn't offer endless possibilities? That can't be. Why not ???? ALL Strads offer endless possibilities. But maybe sometimes those possibilities require different paths to be taken, they're "differently accessible". And the other one looked weird...
Antoine Nedelec Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, carl stross said: Why not ???? ALL Strads offer endless possibilities. But maybe sometimes those possibilities require different paths to be taken, they're "differently accessible". And the other one looked weird... Are you thinking about the cornerless one? I think he had the 1732 "Tom Taylor" (not 100% sure) before he bought the Huberman. Anyway, all fine violins to me.
Don Noon Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 4 hours ago, carl stross said: One advantage when it comes to Strads is that one needs not bother with that sort of decision. One simply adds THAT sound to one's definition of GREAT. Only Strads played by famous players, as there are some duds . I add that to my definition of sound that some other people think is great. I retain my own personal tastes, regardless. Not that I think Bell or his Strad sound bad; I just like some others more.
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 58 minutes ago, curious1 said: He sounds pretty damn good to me. He's very talented and you sense that. I like him, too. But compared with the super-heavyweights of the '20s and '30s he sounds like a child. I mean, Erika Morini would "beat" him with her small finger. Super talent, no "school".
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 58 minutes ago, Don Noon said: Only Strads played by famous players, as there are some duds . I add that to my definition of sound that some other people think is great. I retain my own personal tastes, regardless. Not that I think Bell or his Strad sound bad; I just like some others more. Which ones ( duds ) would those be ?? Some are "better" than others, that's for sure. There might be one or two duds out there, I haven't heard one. That doesn't mean much. Some are a bit quiet. That I heard. Bottom line is that it is very difficult to remove the violin from the context imposed by the player. I speculate that with A LOT of effort you could find five duds. But I doubt.
Rue Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, carl stross said: Why not ???? ALL Strads offer endless possibilities. But maybe sometimes those possibilities require different paths to be taken, they're "differently accessible". And the other one looked weird... And looks matter??? *gasp*
Pluto Vermin Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 curious1, I said that based on limited listening a long time ago. I'm about to change my mind now due to Youtube.
Pluto Vermin Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 5 hours ago, GeorgeH said: Exactly. Like, who would write stories about what violin he was playing when he was busking in the Washington, D.C. subways if he wasn't playing a Strad? No Strad, no Pulitzer Prize.
Rue Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 That subway stunt, btw, was pointless and a waste of time. Still find it - and all the rhetoric - very irritating..
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 43 minutes ago, Rue said: And looks matter??? *gasp* Of course they do. You have to live with the thing for years and years ...and years ...and years ... Shouldn't look like Chupacabra.
Rue Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 While I am not a fan of cornerless violins...they don't look THAT bad...lol..
David Burgess Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 I can still hear Huberman's musical soul imprint coming forth from the violin, grasping toward me like the hands boobies of a wanton and insatiable, yet pristine woman excessively tattood biker slut , every time Josh plays that fiddle.
Carl Stross Posted January 30, 2017 Report Posted January 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, David Burgess said: I can still hear Huberman's musical soul imprint coming forth from the violin, grasping toward me like the hands (boobies?) of a wanton and insatiable woman, whenever Josh plays. You know what ? So do I. And look at Josh Bell - he can't contain himself : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbJZeNlrYKg ( I don't think the strings section in that orchestra is big enough )
Ron1 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 21 hours ago, Rue said: We covered both poles in the conversation. Is it preferable to be eaten by a flock of hungry penguins? I think a bunch of penguins is called a "waddle".
Rue Posted January 31, 2017 Report Posted January 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ron1 said: I think a bunch of penguins is called a "waddle". I stand corrected.
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