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Wondering what the wood is on some of my cheapie bows.  fiddlecollector id'd the top one as amourette previously, and would appreciate knowledgeable opinions on the others.  Thanks in advance.  The two pics are of the same bows with different brightness.

 

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FWIW, above are some outdoor pics of the bows (should be in the same order).  As for how they play, I'm a beginner and can only say that 1-3 give a fuller sound (to my ear) than 4, but all are better than most of my others (some of which are decidedly "flat" or dull).

 

Thanks for the help with the id.

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Since it was suggested that bow #2 might be pernambuco, I've added a few more pics of this bow.  I assume that it is a German trade bow as it is marked (faintly and worn in places) L. Bausch Leipzig.  

 

Thank you all for your generosity in replying to my newbie questions.

 

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Top two look like Wamara. Bottom two Massaranduba.

...or possibly Wamara, pernambuco and two Massaranduba.

I'm curious, do the top two play better than the bottom?

I would have said the top two are pernambuco and the bottom two brasilwood. i have never heard of samara or massaranduba.. Are these local Brasilian names?

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Massaranduba, balata, bois d'abeille, brasilwood, beef wood, bullet wood are different names for the same thing B) .

 

The first was identified as Amourette/plain snakewood in another thread, the second is pernambuco.

Pernambuco should be recogniced at it's very regular pattern of pores like thin, short lines running rectangular to the grain, which give the certain deep reflection, if treated right.

Very good visible in the first photo of #4.

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Wamara (swartzia leiocalysina) is also known as Guyana Rosewood and was/is used for bows classical period bows, and some modern makers use it for modern bows. It is very dense and frequently has excellent acoustic properties.

Massaranduba (manilkara bidentata) is usually referred to as Brazil Wood. It is not Pernambuco (caesalpinia echinata), but the confusion comes as another name for pernambuco is Brazilwood.

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I came across an interesting (to me) catalog from 1892 that had both an "imitation" Bausch and "genuine" Bausch for sale.  The former at $5 and the latter at $8.13 (neither being a small sum in 1892 as many workers made $2 or less per day).  Since the real Bauschs were gone by this time (1874 if wikipedia is to be believed) then is it reasonable that the "genuine" Bausch was a product of the "real" firm that carried on using the name?   I've also included another scan of the brand on my "Bausch" bow discussed above  and wonder if the brand is consistent with an old bow (before WWI) (the brand is very faint, the "L" starts just to the left of the tongue, the pic is the best I can do with my scanner).  (BTW, the adjuster on this bow is certainly a much newer replacement).  Thanks in advance.

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