PASEWICZ Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Oh my. http://www.pinecrestmaine.com/full-immersion-violin-making-school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not telling Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Haha haha ha...did you see the costs associated with this? Tuition doesn't include tool rental, transportation/field trip costs, materials or anything else. Who is the master teacher charging $4000 for a months tuition? Don Roy... But I must admit that if we had a bed and breakfast with a huge shop area my husband would be doing the same thing...minus the promises of teaching anyone to make a world-class instrument in one month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Yacey Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 The disclaimer is "Depending on your skill level..." It sounds like they are conducting the course in a hotel meeting room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 You can also get married while you are there...always a bonus. And you can check out the wine cellar...a bonus if the violin doesn't turn out...or the marriage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 "With the onset of World War II, Kreisler and many other European artists found refuge and a new home in the United States. In 1952, he presented this violin to the Library of Congress, showing his gratitude to his new home by this matchless gift." In lieu of paying back taxes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Yacey Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Total immersion in the wine cellar for 4 weeks? Sounds better and better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Let's see... the biography of the only named instructor, from his website, makes the impressive claim: "currently works for the Maine Turnpike Authority whilst in the process of building his violin making business." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenchworker Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Probably thought of opening this school/inn because of all the maple trees cut down when building the turnpike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGerald StephenR Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'm curious as to the Oberlin reference. Were/are the plaster casts sold through the Oberlin program or would the individual teaching this course be/have been a participant there? The claim of being the only 100% immersion school is puzzling... DGSR☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ Ben Conover Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Upstate main is gorgeous in the summer, lived there for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 How important are plaster casts to new making. Assuming you did not want to make an exact copy, distortions and all. Of course I'd still like to have one. -Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan slobodkin Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Gorham is about as downstate as you can get but still beautiful. This fellow is a great Franco-American fiddler and makes interesting fiddles but I would say that this endeavor seems ill advised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjohnbarleycorn Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 he must have some really quick dry varnish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 From the syllabus, it sounds like they do some foundation work on the top, back and scroll, and then switch to routed and pre-carved parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGerald StephenR Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 From the syllabus, it sounds like they do some foundation work on the top, back and scroll, and then switch to routed and pre-carved parts.I read that too. I'm not really sure what to think of this whole thing...DGSR☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arglebargle Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 This fellow is a great Franco-American fiddler and makes interesting fiddles but I would say that this endeavor seems ill advised. Well, ill advised is a good description. Another might be ripping people off and mis-representing your abilities. Having met Mr. Roy and seen his work, I would not touch this with some one else's ten foot pole. It is all well and good to make your own instruments and tout them as the best sounding ever and master level and on and on, but when you start taking people's money to "teach" them what you know, well, I think that rises to a whole other level of low down. It isn't cheap either. If I were Oberlin or the VSA I might also be a little miffed at the implied endorsement/sponsorship of the event from the description on the website. Oh, the hell with it. Don Roy is a con man, plain and simple. But hey! A fool and his money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASEWICZ Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 The tuition alone is more expensive that an entire semester at the Violin Making School of America, and if you take all the expenses for the 4 weeks, you could pay for 1/3 of an entire degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Noon Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 ... or you could buy a pretty good violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzupe Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Well I don't know about their 4 week program for violin, but he 4 week course on brain surgery, based on my skill level, has really been a godsend. I've been booked ever since. I can offer great deals on in home procedures for a fraction of the cost that those fancy pants hospitals do, apparently full frontal lobotomy's are back in fashion, so I need to go sharpen my purfling pick and sterilize my screwdrivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arglebargle Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Just had a closer look at the info. (It's like a bite I can't stop scratching.) It looks like the minimum you can get away with for the week is $8413. He does give you the option of spending much more. Like a tool package for 2,200. Thanks! But fear not! If this endeavor is a bit rich for you, scholarships are available, ranging from 500 to 1,500. Who is the generous benefactor providing this scholarship? Why, none other than that most august organization, the Maine Advancement of Luthier Craft! Never heard of it? I wonder why? But just think, after only 4 weeks you will have made your own violin! But will it be any good? Don't worry. Mr Roy assures us that "Your instrument will be comparable to many high end custom violins in the market and you will have created it yourself." (Even though it sound like most of the parts of the violin you made yourself will be from pre-routed, pre-carved pieces.) Well that's a relief. Un-freaking-believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad H Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 If he advertises on Ebay, he may pull a few in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will L Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 A few months ago we were discussing lengths of various programs and what the minimum might be. Here's someone who thinks you can start from scratch and get something glued together and strung up in 4 weeks. That would take some great teaching and organization indeed! I seem to remember at the end of my 1st two weeks I could sharpen a little and had a garland of ribs almost finished. If Mr. Roy can impart all this in 4 weeks, think what he could do with 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not telling Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I see less wrong with what he's doing than the rest of you. Look, for $10,000 you also get exclusive invitations to concerts at secret locations. That's terrific, right? For awhile my husband was trying to get me to pay for him to go to some monastery in France to learn techniques from Gesina Liedmeier in an immersion setting. Ok, so it would have been half the cost of this, and about 4000% more awesome, and Gesina Liedmeier has great skills. So, ok, it's different. Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredN Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Appreciate any comments on the overall color of the Strad And Guarneri and the color of the worn area. Is this the true color of these areas.. Seems like the ground color could be from colorless to yellow. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmomonster Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 he could record all of his violin making classes and then put them up on the internet and charge a subscription fee. He could charge extra for personal lessons over Skype. He could charge extra for his critiques of your violin making skills. I sense a business plan here...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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