Rue Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 It is no secret that I like fancy violins and have often wondered why the PTB seem to frown on such doings. And I am not referring to over the top ornate (or purple violins studded with Swarovski crystals )...but more subtle stuff. Double purfling...a non-standard scroll...fancy fittings... ...and not all at the same time either... I was just looking at Lee Dale Nigh's Web page. I find that little touch or accent of "fancy" very appealing. So why are "we" so conservative? Fancy isn't something new either...so it's not like there has been no historical precident.
Rue Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Posted July 10, 2015 p.s. I like fancy bows too. Silver tips...a subtley different frog, etc.
PASEWICZ Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 Rue, I have always had a great respect for masters who are able to set their work apart from others purely by the skill and elegance of execution within the parameters of tradition.
PASEWICZ Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 I suspect it is the same with classical music. Many players will record a given violin concerto, it is the subtleties within the execution that sets one apart from another...as opposed to playing it with electric violin fitted with a midi controller.
PASEWICZ Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 Also, we have all seen things with lots of bling and very little class.
James M. Jones Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 From da Salo . 1540-1609 ... a hundred years before Strad ...give or take . It's an interesting question . might just be because all the extra work really adds up , almost three full days into those flowers for me. and I loved doing it ...but maybe not day after day for months That, and the form and function of the violin family are so near perfect when compared to the more heavily decorated precursors, that the 'king' needed no decoration to enhance .??? Thought's?
Dwight Brown Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 I love how you decide which line goes over and which line goes under, it really flows, Once you put the varnish on it's gonna be super.I just let my eyes follow ir around like it is a labyrinth. It is right up to the level of the original http://orgs.usd.edu/nmm/Violas/DaSalo/DaSaloViola3368/3368daSaloviolabackbottomLG.jpg I am crazy about bows with different kinds of frogs and mountings. It is now rather non-pc to use some of the materials anymore. (no more threads on that one please)!!! DLB
Addie Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 If brevity is the soul of wit, perhaps understatement is the heart of elegance? I suppose there might be a place in the world for rhinestone fine tuners, just not in my world. http://www.sharmusic.com/Accessories/SHAR-Workshop/Luxitune-Hill-Style-E-Adjuster-Pave-Ball-Pink-Crystals-14k-Gold-Plate.axd#sthash.7vnuXjJu.dpbs
Jim Bress Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 From da Salo . 1540-1609 ... a hundred years before Strad ...give or take . It's an interesting question . might just be because all the extra work really adds up , almost three full days into those flowers for me. and I loved doing it ...but maybe not day after day for months That, and the form and function of the violin family are so near perfect when compared to the more heavily decorated precursors, that the 'king' needed no decoration to enhance .??? Thought's? Weren't you going to have a bench thread for this viola. Although it's kinda fun seeing glimses of the da Salo you're building randomly poping up in different threads. Looks nice! -Jim
Dwight Brown Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 If brevity is the soul of wit, perhaps understatement is the heart of elegance? I suppose there might be a place in the world for rhinestone fine tuners, just not in my world. http://www.sharmusic.com/Accessories/SHAR-Workshop/Luxitune-Hill-Style-E-Adjuster-Pave-Ball-Pink-Crystals-14k-Gold-Plate.axd#sthash.7vnuXjJu.dpbs Holy smokes! That one is a whole universe of fancy!! It looks like a baroque disco ball! DLB
Craig Tucker Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 From da Salo . 1540-1609 ... a hundred years before Strad ...give or take . It's an interesting question . might just be because all the extra work really adds up , almost three full days into those flowers for me. and I loved doing it ...but maybe not day after day for months That, and the form and function of the violin family are so near perfect when compared to the more heavily decorated precursors, that the 'king' needed no decoration to enhance .??? Thought's? Ok, James M Jones... Since I strive to be a resident 'artist' here - well, some times at least... Now I'm going to take your copy of the Da Salo, shown here. In my opinion: the design of the purfling, simply does add an artistic element to this violin. Simple in a way - straight forward, intricate in another way, and very cleanly done... There are elements, added to string instruments, that detract from them greatly - and I don't want to get into that end of it at all. But this? What you show here? Beautiful.
Craig Tucker Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 that the 'king' needed no decoration to enhance .??? Thought's? In one sense, yes. On the other hand...?
Rue Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Posted July 10, 2015 If brevity is the soul of wit, perhaps understatement is the heart of elegance? I suppose there might be a place in the world for rhinestone fine tuners, just not in my world. http://www.sharmusic.com/Accessories/SHAR-Workshop/Luxitune-Hill-Style-E-Adjuster-Pave-Ball-Pink-Crystals-14k-Gold-Plate.axd#sthash.7vnuXjJu.dpbs Did I NOT nix the Swarovski crystals???
Rue Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Posted July 10, 2015 http://www.nighviolins.com/Gallery.html This is just elegant:
Rue Posted July 10, 2015 Author Report Posted July 10, 2015 From da Salo . 1540-1609 ... a hundred years before Strad ...give or take . It's an interesting question . might just be because all the extra work really adds up , almost three full days into those flowers for me. and I loved doing it ...but maybe not day after day for months That, and the form and function of the violin family are so near perfect when compared to the more heavily decorated precursors, that the 'king' needed no decoration to enhance .??? Thought's? Gorgeous work!
Craig Tucker Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 http://www.nighviolins.com/Gallery.html This is just elegant: Regarding the button and purfling picture; Yes, I agree. Someone with an artistic bent, just captured a great and artistic way of personalizing their violin... I agree with the "elegant" conclusion. Absolutely. I wouldn't mind owning this simply for this design element, it makes me wonder at the other lutherie qualities inherent in the rest this fiddle?
PASEWICZ Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 http://www.nighviolins.com/Gallery.htmlThis is just elegant: Looks like Kilroy.
Christopher Jacoby Posted July 10, 2015 Report Posted July 10, 2015 Mike, that purfle job is amazing. Hats off. From the Lee Dale Nigh pic of the button detail!-- I think Dale is one of the more stylish makers I've ever had the pleasure to meet. He tries new things and keeps the highest standards while trying them. His instruments sound great and look great, and he does it all under a serious spruce allergy-- dedication.
Rue Posted July 11, 2015 Author Report Posted July 11, 2015 It does NOT look like Kilroy! Ann Cole also does a little fancy (or a little more fancy) on her instruments. Some I quite like, others not so much. Not sure if I like the colour added to the carvings...http://www.annecoleviolinmaker.com/violins.php
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