Janito Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 19 #2 Nov. 2003 (Proc. 31st Conv.) From P65 of that volume: "Mr Loen: ...We've also photographed the archings very carefully and checked them against ideal Curtait Siphloid templates..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I am not sure if this is me or my wife. The picture was taken by our village vicar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actonern Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I believe you might find a burka a bit more commodious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stross Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I am not sure if this is me or my wife. The picture was taken by our village vicar. Where is Guadagnini ? ...and Cozio ? Or they weren't invited ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l33tplaya Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I use Latex every night. My wife and I have both had Latex pajamas and sleeping masks for years. Its just something about the smell. Can't see how it will help me copy books though? Roger, LaTeX is open source computer software that is designed specifically for typesetting technical and scientific documents. See here: http://www.latex-project.org/ I believe the comment was intended to convey that using software such as this, it would be inexpensive (zero cost, essentially, except for actually printing) to republish and reprint, even in different formats. Note that it is pronounced /ˈleɪtɛk/ or /ˈlɑːtɛk/ in English. Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX P.S. An outstanding picture of you, but we can't see your face. You appear to be in excellent shape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piergiuseppe Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The cost of layout, including photographs, is practically 0. The language is easy to learn and great satisfaction. There are templates for books and manuals and publishers to provide them ready. But that writers already know. Here under the formula to derive the segment 'aurea' with and here the result: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piergiuseppe Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 I am not sure if this is me or my wife. The picture was taken by our village vicar. ROTFL! I also thought the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Carlson Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 It's the bit about a "duel" with another violin-maker that seems to have been bandied about with different protagonists, until documents showed recently it actually happened between Grancino and...I'm drawing a blank...,was it Pasta or someone else? That was a duel which ended a series of scuffles between Giovanni Battista Grancino (son of Giovanni Grancino) and Antonio Maria Lavazza. Antonio Maria died due to a stab wound. Giovanni Battista escaped capture and went into hiding, likely a convent. The Grancinos saw their house confiscated. The family moved away from Contrada Larga.Later Giovanni Battista obtained a pardon. This accurate information comes from Carlo Chiesa who has done an enormous amount of archive work in Milan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 That was a duel which ended a series of scuffles between Giovanni Battista Grancino (son of Giovanni Grancino) and Antonio Maria Lavazza. Antonio Maria died due to a stab wound. Giovanni Battista escaped capture and went into hiding, likely a convent. The Grancinos saw their house confiscated. The family moved away from Contrada Larga.Later Giovanni Battista obtained a pardon. Pretty typical, as the lives of violin makers go, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Appleman Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thank you, Bruce. I was too lazy to look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Carlson Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Thank you, Bruce. I was too lazy to look it up. My pleasure Michael. I was too nitpicky to let it go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Carlson Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Don't know if the label pictured is in "undisturbed" condition or not, but it's certainly a black letter ticket. lorenzo-guadagnini-label.jpg lorenzo-guadagnini-manuscript.jpg If original to the maker's hand, he certainly wasn't "illiterate". Hi Joe, Can you post a photograph of the instrument where this label can be found? What does it mean to you when you state, "it's certainly a black letter ticket."? Then another question might be; Was the maker of the label named Lorenzo Guadagnini? In the thread I think they were talking about G.B. Guadagnini being illiterate. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Reuning Posted February 23, 2015 Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 I have seen 1 or 2 labels of the second type shown in the Doring book on page 44 that appear to be old and original to the violin. For me, these are the most compelling evidence in support of the traditional attributions. This label brings up some interesting questions such as the use of the word "Pater" and the claim of being alumnus Stradivari. Of the two Lorenzo Guadagnini violins pictured in the Doring book, consensus is that the first one on page 48 matches several Piacenza G. B Guadagnini violins like the 1747 in Hamma. There are a group of Lorenzo violins that fit into this category. The second, on page 53, is the more compelling type. There are a handful of these violins with attractive one piece backs and Lorenzini heads. To me, these are all a special type of Lorenzini. Another populated group of Lorenzo Guadagnini violins can easily be attributed to Mantegazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Appleman Posted February 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2015 Chris, did you ever see the Lorenzini viola that Pierre Frank had a few years ago? I remember thinking it was very different from the Lorenzini violin I saw at your place, very Guad-ish, and wondering what a Nadotti might look like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeG Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi Joe, Q: Can you post a photograph of the instrument where this label can be found? A: Yes, but I'm not going to. Q: What does it mean to you when you state, "it's certainly a black letter ticket."? A: What does it not mean to you? Q: Then another question might be; Was the maker of the label named Lorenzo Guadagnini? A: It looks that way to me. Who'd be stupid enough try to forge the signature of an illterate person? C: In the thread I think they were talking about G.B. Guadagnini being illiterate. R: Like father like son, I suppose. As far as the current fictional accountings go. Have you ever seen a sample of Guarneri del Gesu's handwriting, other than numbers and hash lines on a label? Have you ever known of an illiterate fiddle maker? That classifies as an oxymorn. How could such a person exist? In light of reason and common sense? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Holmes Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi Joe, Q: Can you post a photograph of the instrument where this label can be found? A: Yes, but I'm not going to. Q: What does it mean to you when you state, "it's certainly a black letter ticket."? A: What does it not mean to you? Q: Then another question might be; Was the maker of the label named Lorenzo Guadagnini? A: It looks that way to me. Who'd be stupid enough try to forge the signature of an illterate person? C: In the thread I think they were talking about G.B. Guadagnini being illiterate. R: Like father like son, I suppose. As far as the current fictional accountings go. Have you ever seen a sample of Guarneri del Gesu's handwriting, other than numbers and hash lines on a label? Have you ever known of an illiterate fiddle maker? That classifies as an oxymorn. How could such a person exist? In light of reason and common sense? Joe Hi "Joe". Consider this a last caution. I don't think I need to go too far into why and what for. You're clever enough to figure that out. I'm just tired of the direction threads go in which you involve yourself, and the time wasted. I've got better things to do than to monitor these gems. I honestly don't think you can manage to change your spots, but at least I offered that option before I ignore and leave unapproved all future posts authored by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Reuning Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi Michael, I have not seen this viola at least with Pierre, but I have seen a handful of Lorenzini violas and agree with you that they differ from the violins like the one in the Hamma book. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hi Joe, Q: Can you post a photograph of the instrument where this label can be found? A: Yes, but I'm not going to. Q: What does it mean to you when you state, "it's certainly a black letter ticket."? A: What does it not mean to you? Q: Then another question might be; Was the maker of the label named Lorenzo Guadagnini? A: It looks that way to me. Who'd be stupid enough try to forge the signature of an illterate person? C: In the thread I think they were talking about G.B. Guadagnini being illiterate. R: Like father like son, I suppose. As far as the current fictional accountings go. Have you ever seen a sample of Guarneri del Gesu's handwriting, other than numbers and hash lines on a label? Have you ever known of an illiterate fiddle maker? That classifies as an oxymorn. How could such a person exist? In light of reason and common sense? Joe You know a lot of people have spent a lot of time on MN trying to be helpful to you. But with replies like these you just underline the fact that you are just a rude, boring old (even if you are young) fart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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