nathan slobodkin Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I feel that all "violin words" should be pronounced exactly the way Rene Morel did. Accent and all. I love listening to videos of him. This is just not negotiable ..... I worked with a Polish guy who said "violins dealers" instead of "violin dealers". Say that fast to get to the truth of the matter.
Stephen Faulk Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 I worked with a Polish guy who said "violins dealers" instead of "violin dealers". Say that fast to get to the truth of the matter. Once I told my uncle I was working in the violin shop, he said without missing a heart beat "Oh ah, still reezstoring zee violence I zee."
Stephen Faulk Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 This is all very funny. Except the one fellow who said he does not hate words. I'ma gonna ride you like a pile driver until you break down and admit you hate a word or two. Come to the dark side Luke.
romberg flat Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I wrote before that none word is bothering me. Well, that’s the truth. But there is one whole sentence which is repeated in countless variations as a kind of a mantra, I can’t stand: “He wished to avoid having his instruments confused with those of his father” (It is related to the labels in his instruments. Guess who’s instruments/labels is this about?) How the hell anybody could know what he wished?
martin swan Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I wrote before that none word is bothering me. Well, that’s the truth. But there is one whole sentence which is repeated in countless variations as a kind of a mantra, I can’t stand: “He wished to avoid having his instruments confused with those of his father” (It is related to the labels in his instruments. Guess who’s instruments/labels is this about?) How the hell anybody could know what he wished? Indeed! In fact, how can anyone be entirely sure he made them at all, unless they were standing over his shoulder throughout the process ... The urge to recreate history in our image seems to be overwhelming.
not telling Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Acrossed. As in, "acrossed the street". It's a regional thing, but despite being regional myself in ways I'm not always aware of, I feel some rage at those showing such disregard of the English language. I just saw David Burgess's comment about frilly underwear being just as ok as "garland" for girls. Hmm. I disagree. Garland is not ok for anyone. I also think David should live a little and not worry about people judging him for wearing what he obviously secretly wants to. Go gold bond those old things and get something made out of satin for an approximation of what it's like for women all the time. No judgment. But we should all be judged harshly for the words we choose, if we choose stupid words.
Rue Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Not a violin beef...but one of my favourite pet ads: Pure bread dog for sale. Has been shot and spayded.
Will L Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 "The E-string is bright, focused, and projecting. And the G-string gives a rich, lush, singing tone." Heck, where can I get me some of those strings? Also, I get bugged with the blurbs in catalogues of violins. They start out with the best violins and state things like: "This violin will surely find its next owner among the first tier of concert artists." Then—down around the Guadagnini—"Suitable for the most distinguished soloist or concertmaster." Then, by the time we get down to the Antonazzi and the like: "A strong robust tone, certain to serve any professional situation." Just once I'd like to see: "This is, in our opinion, the worst Stradivari we have ever offered, but to paraphrase Father Flannigan of "Boy's Town" fame: There is no such thing as a bad Strad. It will no doubt find loving ownership in the gnarled, useless hands of a wealthy financier, doctor, or some other misguided person. Frankly, it will be the one Stradivari we will be most sorry to part with, as it has provided countless hours of amusement and inspired some great one-liners."
Will L Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 "Fingered octaves" seems a little meaningless; after all, all the notes are fingered, and all the double stops. Maybe "alternating finger-octaves" would be better. Interesting when you think about it: it's hard to come up with improvements for the old established terms.
Roger Hargrave Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Acrossed. As in, "acrossed the street". It's a regional thing, but despite being regional myself in ways I'm not always aware of, I feel some rage at those showing such disregard of the English language. I just saw David Burgess's comment about frilly underwear being just as ok as "garland" for girls. Hmm. I disagree. Garland is not ok for anyone. I also think David should live a little and not worry about people judging him for wearing what he obviously secretly wants to. Go gold bond those old things and get something made out of satin for an approximation of what it's like for women all the time. No judgment. But we should all be judged harshly for the words we choose, if we choose stupid words. I can lend David some of my wifes frilly underwear. I don't know if it's a problem of increacing girth or because they have shrunk in the wash, but these days they are getting too tight for me.
Ron1 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I think "boots on the ground" is real clever. Is it proper for a Head-of-State to refer to another Head-of-State by first name? Wouldn't "Chancellor Merkel" have been more protocolish? I don't recall hearing that before- although "Ahngula" didn't seem to mind. But then, she didn't refer to the President as "Barrack" either. (Everything I think of seems to have a political over-tone; but then, that's what ticks me off mostly.
MeyerFittings Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 You should be able to do what ever you want in the privacy of your own pants.
La Folia Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Try to pronounce Csíkszentmihályi. That's easy. Cheek sent ME high-ee.
La Folia Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 What idiot in the insurance industry decided that "co-pay" should be a noun? Has anybody ever noticed that it's a verb? The next time you go to the doctor's office, be sure to point out the difference.
Evan Smith Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 A certain prolific maker calls it a "rib cage". Garland is obviously worse, both are bad. I can't believe no one else thinks "tiger stripes" is ridiculous. Rawr. Tiger stripes. Great topic, Stephen. Right on about the tiger stripes. The same with fiddleback, it is used for lots of things. We're still just trying to communicate. But somehow it is a bit distracting, hey buddy this is just WOOD! W-O-O-D!!!
romberg flat Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Right on about the tiger stripes. The same with fiddleback, it is used for lots of things. We're still just trying to communicate. But somehow it is a bit distracting, hey buddy this is just WOOD! W-O-O-D!!! You are trying to communicate with Tiger Woods?
David Burgess Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 I can lend David some of my wifes frilly underwear. I don't know if it's a problem of increacing girth or because they have shrunk in the wash, but these days they are getting too tight for me. Roger, the offer is much appreciated, even if I'm not in need of it at this moment, since I've managed to fashion a "naughty-knickers" stretcher for undergarments, using an old car jack. I will agree that underwear must not be excessively tight, lest we exhibit the dreaded "OPL" (obvious panty line), which is rarely seen in Cremona.
Lusitano Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 Scientists..HA you all think yer so smart. Correction, we THINK... end of story Everything regarding our intelligence is correct... for the most part and even when under the influence of booze lol When people speak of wood species, especially when referencing quality, while mispronouncing the names and failing to correctly state origens or correctly identify characteristics all while being soo absolutely sure of themselves that it leaves me physically uncomfortable. Often times said people will be comparing identical species with different vernacular names and will repeatedly state that X species is far better than Y species because X species has N characertistics that Y species doesn't have which are clearly visible in the wood... X = Y and possesses all of N (and what they say is different is often times figments of their ego).... Generally every time a luthier speak about "chemistry" or uses terms like "reaction" or "atom" I end up wanting to face desk (this is not to say all luthier's are not versed in chemistry!)... When people pronounce "Luthier" and it comes out sounding like Lue tie arghh The way people say Guarneri (Gwaaaarnierai) irks me, in particular when people *one adult student* kept saying it in said fashion with a faux italian accent and refused to be corrected... Stradivari = normally comes out sounding hillbilly like whenever any native english speaker says it, sorry but it's the truth... We make an effort to correctly pronounce english based names because they are personal references, I believe English speakers should ALSO make an effort
Will L Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 "Tone wood" has always left me cold. Wood chosen because if you knock on it, feel it, and weigh it to know how it should knock-feel-weigh in order to sound good on a finished instrument? I'd hate to use good barn wood in place of bad tone wood; how could I live with myself? I think the safe bet is to take the wood from a Stradivari that is already is proven (AND it's already pretty much cut to size ); rework it, and put your label on it.
nathan slobodkin Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 Not a violin beef...but one of my favourite pet ads: Pure bread dog for sale. Has been shot and spayded. How about the ad in the newspaper stating "Bulldog for sale eats anything, loves children"
Guest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Posted February 11, 2015 WORDS...are why we are here...sometimes words are just words. Other times what annoys as different really are the same words expressed as best as they can. Ease up Tonto.
Stephen Faulk Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Not a violin beef...but one of my favourite pet ads: Pure bread dog for sale. Has been shot and spayded. It should read: Pure dead dog for sale.
Stephen Faulk Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 I can lend David some of my wifes frilly underwear. I don't know if it's a problem of increacing girth or because they have shrunk in the wash, but these days they are getting too tight for me. I've always seen you as a Bunny Suit man.
Stephen Faulk Posted February 11, 2015 Author Report Posted February 11, 2015 Correction, we THINK... end of story Everything regarding our intelligence is correct... for the most part and even when under the influence of booze lol When people speak of wood species, especially when referencing quality, while mispronouncing the names and failing to correctly state origens or correctly identify characteristics all while being soo absolutely sure of themselves that it leaves me physically uncomfortable. Often times said people will be comparing identical species with different vernacular names and will repeatedly state that X species is far better than Y species because X species has N characertistics that Y species doesn't have which are clearly visible in the wood... X = Y and possesses all of N (and what they say is different is often times figments of their ego).... Generally every time a luthier speak about "chemistry" or uses terms like "reaction" or "atom" I end up wanting to face desk (this is not to say all luthier's are not versed in chemistry!)... When people pronounce "Luthier" and it comes out sounding like Lue tie arghh The way people say Guarneri (Gwaaaarnierai) irks me, in particular when people *one adult student* kept saying it in said fashion with a faux italian accent and refused to be corrected... Stradivari = normally comes out sounding hillbilly like whenever any native english speaker says it, sorry but it's the truth... We make an effort to correctly pronounce english based names because they are personal references, I believe English speakers should ALSO make an effort You are undoubtedly a spy from the CIA === CITES Intelligence Agency Hmm you are being watched very closely by MI5 == Maestronet Intelligence Section Cinco
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