Rue Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I know very little about arching, but looking at this violin (eBay offering) is the arching so high as to distort the violin? It looks to me almost like it has folds in it! Why go to this extreme (if this is extreme)? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Fine-antique-Professional-Level-high-Arched-4-4-Ready-to-Play-/321651733742?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae3eff4ee
Ken_N Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I don't think that arch is high. Very strange, but not high. Ken
Rue Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 That's not high? Well...at least it's strange then...because I know it looks odd... So what is it?
Don Noon Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 It's one of the many odd ideas about arching. I had a fiddle once from ~1900 that I called the Pomegranate Fiddle, because the bouts were all lumpy and bumpy like the fruit. It actually sounded pretty good, so you never know.
martin swan Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 This is a Schoenbach violin circa 1920 which has nothing to do with Klotz but has somehow become associated with the Klotz family. The wacky arching apparently has some historical precedent - I thought it was re-introduced to show off the capabilities of the Thau milling machine, but that's just speculation. The professional opinions that the seller has obtained are risible.
Marty Kasprzyk Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I know very little about arching, but looking at this violin (eBay offering) is the arching so high as to distort the violin? It looks to me almost like it has folds in it! Why go to this extreme (if this is extreme)? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Fine-antique-Professional-Level-high-Arched-4-4-Ready-to-Play-/321651733742?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae3eff4ee Its being used as a snow shovel?
JohnCockburn Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 looks like the result of feeding a cnc miller with a 2 bit resolution digital file.
martin swan Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 looks like the result of feeding a cnc miller with a 2 bit resolution digital file. That's the Thau milling machine in a nutshell!
baroquecello Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I've seen a middle of the nineteenth century cello with an arching like that. The lutier who was selling it talked about a misinterpreted Klotz arching, coming from Mittenwald, that apparently was quite common at the time. The problem with instruments with such an arching is that fitting a sound post can be easy, because the plates are relatively flat where the post stands, but adjusting tension by minute east and west movement is nearly impossible for exactly the same reason. The cello had a nice sound, resonant, but didn't project very well.
Rue Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Posted January 30, 2015 Okay...so this was the result of experiments with machining...you wouldn't try to do this by hand? ...it does kinda look like a shovel from that angle...
martin swan Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I didn't say that - apparently there are a number of historic violins with this sort of arching. They must have been carved by hand ...
duane88 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Posted January 30, 2015 I wouldn't say that the arch is "too high", but i would say that the route that they took from the top to the bottom was inelegant! I have a few of these fiddles, all labeled Klotz in some form or another. They sound terrible, fiddle players like them, and I have been tempted to turn them into clocks.
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