Mammoth Ivory Ban


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The colonialism and exploitation of sub-saharan Africa goes back to The ancient world, including Rome, and the near east.  You are correct about internal tribal conflicts being involved in the slave trade, but if there had not been a market I doubt there would have been much point.  I do not know of many African countries that are doing well.  My aunt and uncle were Episcopal missionaries ( the love of god and a really good dry martini) in Liberia in the late 50's and early 60's.  It has certainly put instrument dealers in a spot, and I guess there will be a lot of replacement frogs in peoples futures.

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The colonialism and exploitation of sub-saharan Africa goes back to The ancient world, including Rome, and the near east.

Colonialism and exploitation go back about as far as human history, in lots of cultures. It's nothing unique to Africa. So why would we attribute Africa's problems to colonialism?

 

If colonialism destines a geographic region to failure, what's up with Singapore? And Taiwan?

 

Jews are doing decently all over the world, despite having recently been heavily oppressed.

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Wow, you guys are gonna make a official complaint?, with lawyers and such?, geez, you guys really are terrorist's aren't you, someone's dogs getting shot  :D Such actions only help to justify the Silverlight program. You people are an environmental hazard that must be stopped, why murdering innocent extinct wooly mammoths only to use their remains in such frivolous manners helps solidify your position as an enemy of the state and central banking system.

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Aren't you even going to see who's running first? :huh:

You already know who your choices are  in the media controlled bankers election.

 

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

 

"you" people need to be institutionalized

 

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Colonialism and exploitation go back about as far as human history, in lots of cultures. It's nothing unique to Africa. So why would we attribute Africa's problems to colonialism?

 

If colonialism destines a geographic region to failure, what's up with Singapore? And Taiwan?

 

Jews are doing decently all over the world, despite having recently been heavily oppressed.

As a "Jew", Jews have not been "heavily oppressed" , we have been "heavily used" by other "Jews" in order to prop up a massive usury scam.

 

For example, when "Jews" declared war on Germany in 1933, was that all Jews? or was that just the Jews who owned the media and controlled the financial system using the media to make it seem like "all Jews" are one "happy" group operating in concert running a usury scam on the world? thus creating a brilliant ploy via psychological manipulation via racial sensitivity via the Helegian dialectic.

 

In essence creating a situation where people get confused between "Jew" and "Central banker"...Or, all Jews are central bankers, all central bankers are Jews.

 

Again all about controlling the masses "faith" related to perceptions of currency and it's value because it's the "faith" that makes it "good". As long as "you" think it's good, they will keep making it out of thin air, and keep charging you compounding daily interest, and you will keep being "human" and deferring this "credit card debt" {your currency supply and its interest} to future generations so you can live the good life now on borrowed deficit budget spending.

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Yep, too many listen to what they say they are going to do and never follow up to see what actually happened.

Beyond that, the real problem lies in the acceptance of the "officialnessness" of the election process. Elections are not rigged by the count, they are rigged by who the choices are. Word on the street is that in both USA and Europe, underground movements are starting in order to form "peoples" election processes outside of the "media". And or you are being told who you can vote for and when. The "people" are working on a non media sanctioned "new official" election that will contest the validity of the current "official"system. The intent is to shift participation in order to have more participants engaging the peoples election vs the medias, and in time, by default of sheer numbers, force change.

 

But of course the internet is the only medium, and well that's "owned" by them, and well most people can't add 2+2 and they willingly walk around in some Huxley like daze coveting their personal tracking/recording device...So....Hey, how bout that superbowl!

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DOOM.  I'm beginning to see the word pop up here and there.  We'll no doubt be seeing it more.  You can't fight the great waves of history.  No one has ever been smart enough to lead mankind to shape up BEFORE bad stuff happens;  the smart people are only sought AFTER the bad stuff has gotten out of hand and, oh say, a few hundred millions are killed or in peril.  And improvement only lasts a short while before the whole cycle starts again.  DOOM.  A most discouraging word.

 

This is inspired by a Mad Magazine cartoon of many years ago:  A cowboy is riding along on his pony singing, "...where never is heard, a discouraging word, and the skies are not cloudy all day..."  While overhead a "sky-writer" is spelling out—in the otherwise perfectly cloudless sky—a giant word:   DOOM.

 

What's worrisome to me is that our skies aren't "cloudless."

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As much as we might wish it otherwise, voting is unlikely to do any good here.  Even if there were a simple vote on this ivory issue, which side do you think would have more votes -- bow makers or people who want to save elephants?

The point would be to vote for someone that has enough personal integrity to look at an issue and make a judgement based on facts instead of political expediency. This ban is not now and never has been about saving elephants, it is about the appearance of saving elephants.

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I'm still wondering about all the ornamental ivory on the White House piano. If one is sincere about an ivory ban, shouldn't it be crushed or somethin'? Or the ivory replaced with Corian? Or is the ivory issue only intended to apply to the "lower social classes"?

Jeez man, he has no more campaigns to run, why do anything now?

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The Ivory "thing" has so many facets that it is daunting, one thing is for sure, the elephant is the loser. That being said, I think its important to distinguish between "Ivory" from a species of elephant currently existing{probably not for long} and Mammoth Ivory from a species that went extinct 10,000 years ago. Barring preservation for museum pieces I can not think of what other purpose beside "art" that this material would be good for, nor do I understand why it is being lumped in with "Ivory" ....well actually I do understand why, but that's a whole other discussion. :)   

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I'm still wondering about all the ornamental ivory on the White House piano. If one is sincere about an ivory ban, shouldn't it be crushed or somethin'? Or the ivory replaced with Corian? Or is the ivory issue only intended to apply to the "lower social classes"?

Look here Burgess, getting together with your corporate buddies for sanctioned killing parties in Africa is for them, not you! :)

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"Since 2011 the price of ivory in China has skyrocketed, taking off right around the time when ivory stockpiles were destroyed in Kenya. Recent studies funded by Save the Elephants revealed a tripling of ivory prices in China over the last four years. That upswing, according to the study, is increasing the poaching of African elephants. Stiles says, ‘the message sent to ivory speculators by the stockpile destruction is, buy as much ivory as you can afford now, it is getting scarcer.’"

 

http://magazine.africageographic.com/weekly/issue-6/the-burning-question/

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"Since 2011 the price of ivory in China has skyrocketed, taking off right around the time when ivory stockpiles were destroyed in Kenya. Recent studies funded by Save the Elephants revealed a tripling of ivory prices in China over the last four years. That upswing, according to the study, is increasing the poaching of African elephants. Stiles says, ‘the message sent to ivory speculators by the stockpile destruction is, buy as much ivory as you can afford now, it is getting scarcer.’"

http://magazine.africageographic.com/weekly/issue-6/the-burning-question/

So by this administration crushing 6 tons of ivory, they fueled the upswing in ivory poaching? Our "President" is responsible for the killing of more elephants than every American bow maker that ever lived...combined?
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Does one really need ivory for bow tips? WHat do bow makers use as a substitue?

There must be an artificial material that looks nice as well.

If not,m there is work to be done fr a good chemist.

 

We would not have to abandon classical music if we had to move to carbon bows altogether.

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