wooden Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 Hi Martin The violin is big: 36,5 cms. The bottom rib construction is in two pieces but I can't tell if it is continuous or book matched as the wood has no flames: it's plane. I'd say that the purfling is dyed.
Ben Hebbert Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 - or that Semola may not exist at all As Chris Reuning says the label(s) are compelling, but I think that the text of the label probably isn't. There are a number of violin makers all over the place who cited Cremona in their inscriptions (or other places) - "Joannes Baptista Guadagnini Cremonensis Fecit Papiae/Taurini, etc." being such an example (without us knowing how true the label may be). To my mind, my best first guess was to throw this out fairly close to Buchstetter because of the conscious similarities with Cremonese work, and a Cremona reference on a compelling label only strengthens my sense of direction. I am manifestly aware that this is Jacob's territory, and I would have to go to considerable further lengths before that could be anything more than thinking aloud. (But I do like the shape of the bottom bouts)... My original comments about photo quality and the condition of the instrument still stand.
Blank face Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 From Jalovecz, bohemian makers. Johann Baptist Stoss, born Füssen 1784, died Prague 1850. Mentioned as the weakest maker of the Prague school.
martin swan Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 36.5 ... I thought it would be big, but it's even bigger than I expected (as the actress said to the bishop).
martin swan Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 stoss prag 001.jpg From Jalovecz, bohemian makers. Johann Baptist Stoss, born Füssen 1784, died Prague 1850. Mentioned as the weakest maker of the Prague school. Are you sure that's actually a Stoss ...? The scroll doesn't look nearly bad enough I'll see your Jalovec and raise you one Pilar!
Blank face Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Are you sure that's actually a Stoss ...? The scroll doesn't look nearly bad enough Not sure at all....but there are some affinities, especially the form and position of the fffs, the rounded bouts. The OP scroll would fit into Füssen school, maybe he stopped there on his way to Russia .
Rue Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Oh my! Even I can see that asymmetry. Influenced by the School of Vodka?
jacobsaunders Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Dear Juan, Quite apparently none of the above have a clue what your violin is either. Sorry for suggesting you post it. PS: The Stoß in Prague, as far as the ones I have seen, were all bought Schönbach/Markneukirchen instruments of his period. It seems he spent his time making guitars, which were very good, and was only a dealer pertaining to violins
BassClef Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I love these threads, even when there's no solid conclusive results. The adjectives and descriptions always interest me.
martin swan Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 And we didn't know the OP's first name either ... what a bunch of amateurs Seems to me this is a good candidate for a dendro, though the growth may be too tight. I can't see anything French myself but always enjoy being shown to be an idiot.
Michael Appleman Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Looking at the color of the top I was starting to think there was some kinship with Buchstetter, then the corners, the arching and the close-up of the back started to seriously remind me of a friend's Widhalm, despite the "Strad-ish" pattern. Jacob, could this have something to do with the circle of makers around Buchstetter? Like Veit Anton Widhalm, or one of the Thumharts?
Blank face Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I'll see your Jalovec and raise you one Pilar! IMG_20150126_0001.jpg This looks definitely like a Markneukirchen with a straight forward Schönbach scroll...if he was a dealer only, he must have had different sources (but Jalovecz isn't allways a quite reliable source, if you meant it this way). Looking at the color of the top I was starting to think there was some kinship with Buchstetter, then the corners, the arching and the close-up of the back started to seriously remind me of a friend's Widhalm, despite the "Strad-ish" pattern. Jacob, could this have something to do with the circle of makers around Buchstetter? Like Veit Anton Widhalm, or one of the Thumharts? The extended roundings of the outer bouts have some southgerman appeal, but I can't see either Widhalm, Buchstetter nor anything"strad-ish" - just the back with the few birdseyes makes my bohemian bells ring. But, as I said, I'd better kept my fingers quiet.
Blank face Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Influenced by the School of Vodka? A kind of universal school .
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