NickIsWorking Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 I need to improve my screw drilling set up ( a vised Milwaukee drill). Can you recommend corrective action?
PASEWICZ Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 Foret, absolutely no question. The one from Windstone editions is one of the finest tools I own, and I am a tool guy.
NickIsWorking Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Posted November 18, 2014 Thank you Jerry. I haven't seen this one. I was looking at the vwlberti and the one hannings carries. Rodney has one that is beautiful, but I don't know if it is still being made. You'd m a great lead.
Florian Schneidt Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 The one that Rodney has is not made anymore, as far as I know. I would be interested to see a picture of the windstone thing. I looked for a foret as well (which is by far more desirable than a bow badger), in the end I built one myself. In retrospect I should have put more effort in a good finish, but it works well. Find pictures here: http://www.maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/328613-drill-for-bow-maker/?hl=+foret++florian#entry594280 poste no 7. Since then I have modified a little, I got rid of the coupler at the left and made an axle with an jacobs taper to directly mount a chuck.
PASEWICZ Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 http://www.albertidesign.com/foret Windstone is the parent company, sorry. It has a few things attached that I do not use, but is is a way overbuilt tool. Florian is right about Rodney's foret, quite a few of us bought these from the maker who was producing them years ago, but I do not think he will be making more.
Matthew Noykos Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 The one from Alberti is awesome. The chuck alone is really expensive German stuff. It's super smooth.
PASEWICZ Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 The one from Alberti is awesome. The chuck alone is really expensive German stuff. It's super smooth. You get one?
Matthew Noykos Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 You get one? I did. I know, I'm a tool whore.
NickIsWorking Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Posted November 18, 2014 BTW Nick, Oberlin this summer? I hope so. Rodney's doing four shops this year. If I can afford it I'm going to one of his and Oberlin. If I can't afford both it will friend on timing.
NickIsWorking Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Posted November 18, 2014 I did. I know, I'm a tool whore. I think I am going with the alberti. Now I have to find bits. The twist drill junk I have is pathetic. I've been looking at MSC and thinking of having some machine locally, but I'm not even sure what I need. If anyone wants to recommend bits for drilling the screw hole on bass bows I am all ears.
PASEWICZ Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 I did. I know, I'm a tool whore. I think I am going with the alberti. I think you young guys to bows should have to suffer with sub-standard tools for a decade or so...just to make it fair.
NickIsWorking Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Posted November 18, 2014 I should take a picture of my set up. It is a excuse for a bow making bench, but it's a start.
Matthew Noykos Posted November 18, 2014 Report Posted November 18, 2014 I think you young guys to bows should have to suffer with sub-standard tools for a decade or so...just to make it fair. Should I walk to school uphill both ways too?
jim mcavoy Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 If anyone wants to recommend bits for drilling the screw hole on bass bows I am all ears. A general thought on drill bits..brad point as in http://wlfuller.com/html/short_length_brad.html#wire May be an option.... They don't wander as much
NickIsWorking Posted November 19, 2014 Author Report Posted November 19, 2014 ThanksTha on that seam.
HullGuitars Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Having a full machine shop inside my guitar shop..... I would love to find plans to make a foret of my own. Or possibly someone within driving distance can spare a few hours of alone time.... (with their foret and myself) so that I can blueprint and draw it up in cad.
Pebbles Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Alberti anything is the way to go. Love his tools, well worth the money, you won't regret it.
j15310 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 What is the difference between a foret and this "touret pour archetier" ? https://shop.bergeon.ch/Catalogue/PDF/3141.pdf (scroll down) Just curious.
Florian Schneidt Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 What is the difference between a foret and this "touret pour archetier" ? https://shop.bergeon.ch/Catalogue/PDF/3141.pdf (scroll down) Just curious. None, that's the thing! And a nicely made one, too! Where did you find this? Matthew, is the Alberti foret convenient to travel with? It looks a bit big.
Matthew Noykos Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 None, that's the thing! And a nicely made one, too! Where did you find this? Matthew, is the Alberti foret convenient to travel with? It looks a bit big. I have not travelled with mine yet but it seems it would be fine. The one in post 19 looks smaller. Something like that would travel well I think. The Alberti has a built in clamp so that's nice for travel. I'll take some pictures once I get going here and post them.
j15310 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 None, that's the thing! And a nicely made one, too! Where did you find this? Matthew, is the Alberti foret convenient to travel with? It looks a bit big. I found it in the Bergeon catalogue . Bergeon (from Le Locle, Neuchatel) is a highly respected Swiss maker of handtools for the watchmaker. http://www.bergeon.ch/ Unfortunately their homepage does not have a very good search function and does not provide much more information about the foret than the catalog page : https://shop.bergeon.ch/index.php?sent=send&view=0&langue=2&keyword=&sadv=0&planche=&numero=6806 I have no idea where to buy Bergeon products (http://www.ofrei.com/bergeon-tools.html sells the watch tools in the US).
Matthew Noykos Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Florian, Here are some photos. I took some photos of the whole thing put together and took pictures of each part being removed. I think it would travel nicely. The depth stop thingy is removeable. I know many who don't use it but it comes with the foret so I included it in the pictures. There are options for a base that is mounted to the bench rather than the clamp, but I chose the clamp for the flexibility it offers. Once it's clamped, it's as stable as anything.
Florian Schneidt Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 Thanks, Matthew. I agree, this breaks down very nicely and should fit into every suitcase. Probably lighter as well than the cast iron ones. Price is ok for what you get...
Florian Schneidt Posted November 19, 2014 Report Posted November 19, 2014 I found it in the Bergeon catalogue . Bergeon (from Le Locle, Neuchatel) is a highly respected Swiss maker of handtools for the watchmaker. http://www.bergeon.ch/ Unfortunately their homepage does not have a very good search function and does not provide much more information about the foret than the catalog page : https://shop.bergeon.ch/index.php?sent=send&view=0&langue=2&keyword=&sadv=0&planche=&numero=6806 I have no idea where to buy Bergeon products (http://www.ofrei.com/bergeon-tools.html sells the watch tools in the US). You dont happen to know what these cost? I can't find them anywhere...
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