Zorzi Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I saw this violin at the last Bromptons sale yesterday and wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it? http://www.bromptons.co/auction/23rd-june-2014/lots/258-a-very-fine-and-interesting-italian-violin-after-peter-guarneri-of-mantua.html It has a really interesting outline. I like how the upper corners jut out almost horrizontaly. I don't recall seeing a violin with a similar outline. I also love the choice of wood. Is it what some people refer to as 'oppio'? I thought I would post this in the hope of hearing other people's opinions about it. Does it look particularly 'Mantuan', if so, are there certain characteristics which go with that school? Interesting that it is sold with paperwork stating its a Balestieri and it's listed as after Peter of Mantua. Any thoughts? A quick disclaimer - I didn't buy it so I'm not fishing for attribution hints - I'm just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Beautiful. Decent provenance too. Nice to see the real thing for a change. Thank you for posting this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Nice to see the real thing for a change. What do you mean, "the real thing"? - "the real" what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 What do you mean, "the real thing"? - "the real" what? As opposed to "the usual" branded as Strad? If you have something to say, Jacob, please say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not Balestieri, probably ”real” something. General head-scratching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not Balestieri, probably ”real” something. General head-scratching Ahhh. Thank you, Jacob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will L Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 It is a very interesting violin by all means. Balestrieri are super playing instruments. The last real one I saw was already $150,000 over 15 years ago, so I doubt anyone at Brompton's thinks it is either Petrus or Balestrieri. Here is a nice example. Hard not to love the strength of his work: http://sparebankstiftelsen.no/en/Dextra-Musica/Instruments/Balestrieri-Tommaso-Violin A video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXTmzQtQDa8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I saw this violin at the last Bromptons sale yesterday and wondered if anyone had any thoughts on it? http://www.bromptons.co/auction/23rd-june-2014/lots/258-a-very-fine-and-interesting-italian-violin-after-peter-guarneri-of-mantua.html It has a really interesting outline. I like how the upper corners jut out almost horrizontaly. I don't recall seeing a violin with a similar outline. I also love the choice of wood. Is it what some people refer to as 'oppio'? I thought I would post this in the hope of hearing other people's opinions about it. Does it look particularly 'Mantuan', if so, are there certain characteristics which go with that school? Interesting that it is sold with paperwork stating its a Balestieri and it's listed as after Peter of Mantua. Any thoughts? A quick disclaimer - I didn't buy it so I'm not fishing for attribution hints - I'm just curious Oppio: looks like could be some local maple. Here a Balestrieri from Skinner: http://www.skinnerinc.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Mantua-School-Violin-2477-40.png Outline looks similar but apparently he also made a different model with more squarish shoulders. Here a nice Peter G of Mantua: http://www.brobstviolins.com/gallery/large.asp?I=868 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorzi Posted June 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Really interesting to compare the OP fiddle with the Balestrieri of post #8. The sound holes seem quite similar in some ways, the conception seems to be coming from a similar place. But for me the front view of the scroll seems to be pretty much identical on both. Certainly the OP fiddle seems closer to Balestrieri than Peter of Mantua to my eye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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