lakegrayson Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Hello everyone, I was wondering if someone could confirm or deny the authenticity of this violin that used to be my dads elderly neighbors fathers violin. My father received this violin as a present from his elderly neighbor back in 1969 or so. That neighbors father apparently played it a long time ago. He had received the violin in the 1840s (?). I was looking for another cord for my guitar amp in the basement and stumbled upon it. Being an avid cello player for 8 years now (I'm in 9th grade) i immediately realized what i could have in my hands when i read the label inside of the violin. I can post pictures if need be. i was wondering if it could possibly be a genuine Guarneri violin. "Joseph Guarnerius fecit Cremonae anno 1735 IHS +" is what the label on the inside of the violin says. Please and thank you for any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Some pictures would be nice. Of the violin that is, not so much the label. There are literally millions of violins with a Guarneri or Stradivari label. Only about 150 violins in existence today are considered to be made by Joseph Guarneri "Del Gesu". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will L Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Hi Lake, Yes, of course we'd need pictures. Mainly straight on pictures of the front, back, and side of the scroll, but more if you wish. The better the pictures, the better we can judge. Or you can take the violin to the nearest decent violin shop. The odds are millions to one against it being a genuine Guarneri, but it could be, so worth the effort to find out. And of course it could still be a very nice violin by some other maker. It's nice to see a "Guarneri found in a basement" rather than the usual "Stradivari found in an attic." (That's a little humor for those of us who have recently been making jokes, not meant to be sarcastic to you) Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassClef Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Yes, upload the photos to an outside image hosting site (like photobucket) (since you'll need ten approved posts before you can upload here) and paste the link to the photos in this thread. You write pretty well for a 9th grader. Good luck and enjoy your cello playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 It's nice to see a "Guarneri found in a basement" rather than the usual "Stradivari found in an attic." Very refreshing change . I look forward to your photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Faulk Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 He belongs in the basement, separate from those snobby Attic Strads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakegrayson Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Thank you all for the kind words. Alright, I will post photos somewhere and add the link as soon as i can. Oh i completely agree that the "Strad in the attic" is all too common.. and I'm 99 percent sure it is not an original Guarneri instrument but on the off chance that it was, I had to find out. There is also another violin i found with it that doesn't have any labels on it. Could someone help me with the other one? Thank you for everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakegrayson Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 http://s1152.photobucket.com/user/lakegrayson/profile/ The url above is the link to my photobucket account. It has the pictures of the Guarneri violin and another violin which i have absolutely no clue about. It has all its strings but lacks any labels anywhere on or in it. The second one (with all 4 strings and the ornate decor on the back) i just found in a case in my basement earlier today, and neither parent has any knowledge of it. What are these violins?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff White Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 But at least he got out of the closet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbelin Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Cremonae is already a fake label... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratcliffiddles Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Cremonae is already a fake label... No it's not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbelin Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Oh...ok,the Hills were wrong then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbelin Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Oh,Roger Hargrave was wrong too...he's gonna hate that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Oh,Roger Hargrave was wrong too...he's gonna hate that! I refer you to post #403 Rogers edge method. Lake Grayson, I am very sorry, but the closest that this violin might have come to Italy, let alone Cremona, is if the owner once ate a take away pizza and dribbled on the varnish. Harsh, but true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I could be a Guano-eri.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Regardless of value...it's pretty. It's also worth while seeing how it plays - might sound lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I could be a Guano-eri.... True, but one fears, not a proofreader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff White Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Guys, in all our fun, it seems that no one has told the OP that his violins are Mark/Shon cottage fiddles?? Or did I miss that. jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertdo Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 Yes but what if Guarneri was actually a fan of Mark/Schon violins and kept some in his basement as investments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrini Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 People are now into Guarneri owned violin ? Yes but what if Guarneri was actually a fan of Mark/Schon violins and kept some in his basement as investments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Tucker Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 People are now into Guarneri owned violin ? and pre-Guaneri owned violins... It get's pretty intense in that particular "value based" arena these days. No doubt, soon it'll be a "violin that may have been seen, or looked at by (insert favorite old Italian makers name here)" violin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 So we have Strads in the Attic, Del Gesus in the Basement......should we expect to find Amatis in the main-floor Utility Room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 So we have Strads in the Attic, Del Gesus in the Basement... ...should we expect to find Amatis in the main-floor Utility Room? Possibly, but I'd definitely check the closet. You never know what you might find in there............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerobson Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Possibly, but I'd definitely check the closet. You never know what you might find in there............ Guads and Gofrillers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Guads and Gofrillers! Guads and Gofrillers and Gands, oh my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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