Rue Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Dylana Jenson is selling her 1994 Sam Z. violin for $149,000. Is listing it on a violin forum an odd approach to selling a violin at this price range? Kinda like using Kijiji? Or maybe this is the way to go? I have no clue (apparently)..
Carl Stross Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 I don't know who's Dylana Jenson but I don't see anything wrong with trying to sell the violin "on a forum". Maybe the violin has a fabulous tone. Or plays in tune. Whatever. I am quite sure for her it's worth every cent of those $149k. Do you have a link ?
not telling Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Ziggy sells his violins for a third of that. I don't understand her angle...I mean yes...in 100 years maybe. Someone please explain...or is she just not that bright? Was 1994 a special year?
Joe Swenson Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Ziggy sells his violins for a third of that. I don't understand her angle...I mean yes...in 100 years maybe. Someone please explain...or is she just not that bright? Was 1994 a special year? Maybe she's trying to get reimbursed for breaking it in for the next owner ...
mandm Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 I've played her violin couple years back, it does sound really good. I wouldnt buy for 150k....
Don Noon Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 If the instrument is the one shown on her website http://www.dylanajenson.com/events/, it isn't a special bench copy or anything, just his personal model with the clipped corners on the lower wings. Perhaps she considers herself to be notable, and the used instruments of notable musicians can sell for more (?)
gowan Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Ziggy sells his violins for a third of that. I don't understand her angle...I mean yes...in 100 years maybe. Someone please explain...or is she just not that bright? Was 1994 a special year? I don't know who's Dylana Jenson but I don't see anything wrong with trying to sell the violin "on a forum". Maybe the violin has a fabulous tone. Or plays in tune. Whatever. I am quite sure for her it's worth every cent of those $149k. Do you have a link ? Dylana Jenson is quite a noted concert violinist, a famous child prodigy (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylana_Jenson for details). She made acclaimed recordings of the Sibelius concerto with Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra in the early 1980s. She's a good example of why there can be trouble with the loaning of instruments to performers. Jensen made her famous recordings and early concert performances playing on a 1743 Guarneri del Gesu violin that was loaned to her. When she announced that she was going to get married the owner of the instrument took it back on short notice because he felt she couldn't be serious about her career if she was going to marry. After playing on different instruments she acquired a Zygmuntowicz violin in 1995 which she used in concerts and found excellent. I suppose that's the instrument she is selling
Brad Dorsey Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 ....Was 1994 a special year? Yes. It was the 501st anniversary of Columbus's first voyage to America.
mandm Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Dylana Jenson is selling her 1994 Sam Z. violin for $149,000. Is listing it on a violin forum an odd approach to selling a violin at this price range? Kinda like using Kijiji? Or maybe this the way to go? I have no clue (apparently).. which forum is it on?
Carl Stross Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 If the instrument is the one shown on her website http://www.dylanajenson.com/events/, it isn't a special bench copy or anything, just his personal model with the clipped corners on the lower wings. Perhaps she considers herself to be notable, and the used instruments of notable musicians can sell for more (?) Don, it is surely a fabulous violin. I think Zyg made a violin which was highly praised by Isaac Stern. That should tell a lot : Stern was a man of spotless integrity. Also, IMHO, a violin used by an artist of Mrs. Jenson's caliber does indeed increase in value quite a bit. Here is a fragment with Mrs. Jenson playing what might be the Zyg violin :
Carl Stross Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 It sounds similar to the violin in the Tch clip. The violin here : ( 1:25 ) sounds WAY better but doesn't play in tune and misses a chunk of Kreisler's Cadenza.
joerobson Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 old guy story time... Back in the dark ages when I was a woodchuck, I cut some guitar wood for Bob Benedetto. Fast forward a decade plus... I am in a guitar shop in Cleveland with one of my sons and there in the humidity controlled room for the acoustic guitars is a glass case enshrining a Benedetto arch-top from the early 1980's. Price: $23,000. So I can't resist....I call Bob and tell him. He laughs and says he probably sold that guitar for 800 bucks...and then adds "If I were smart, every time I made a guitar, I should have made 2..and stuck one in the closet...who knew?" on we go, Joe
Stephen Faulk Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Maybe she's tryimg to raise money to buy the 25,000 Florida del Gesu copy?
GoldenPlate Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Time will prove that Sam Z's violins are not worth to invest.
joerobson Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Time will prove that Sam Z's violins are not worth to invest. I think that is a bit premature.....
apartmentluthier Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 And who is "GoldenPlate" to say so? Last time I checked, no experts of note came from LaLa Land.
Carl Stross Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Time will prove that Sam Z's violins are not worth to invest. I think quite the opposite. Maybe they'll need some time to settle into more realistic prices and then they'll take off from there. The only question is what could be a realistic price ?
MellowCello Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.violinist.com/discussion/response.cfm?ID=25336
Terrini Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Or just price it higher... for negotiation ...
ilovefiddle Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 sounds WAY better.... Couldn't agree more
skiingfiddler Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Dylana Jenson is quite a noted concert violinist, a famous child prodigy (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylana_Jenson for details). She made acclaimed recordings of the Sibelius concerto with Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra in the early 1980s. She's a good example of why there can be trouble with the loaning of instruments to performers. Jensen made her famous recordings and early concert performances playing on a 1743 Guarneri del Gesu violin that was loaned to her. When she announced that she was going to get married the owner of the instrument took it back on short notice because he felt she couldn't be serious about her career if she was going to marry. After playing on different instruments she acquired a Zygmuntowicz violin in 1995 which she used in concerts and found excellent. I suppose that's the instrument she is selling Gowan, Glad you posted this. Maybe one has to be of a certain age to know who Dylana Jenson is. That sudden withdrawl of the del Gesu shows one good reason for a performer not to get a fiddle on loan, even a fancy Italian. Better to get a contemporary instrument you can pay for and actually own.
Matthew Noykos Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Don, it is surely a fabulous violin. I think Zyg made a violin which was highly praised by Isaac Stern. That should tell a lot : Stern was a man of spotless integrity. Also, IMHO, a violin used by an artist of Mrs. Jenson's caliber does indeed increase in value quite a bit. Here is a fragment with Mrs. Jenson playing what might be the Zyg violin : I'm pretty sure that is the Zygmuntowicz violin for sale. I did my undergrad at the school Ms Jensen taught at. She looks about the age that she would have been when she was on that violin.
Carl Stross Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 That sudden withdrawl of the del Gesu shows one good reason for a performer not to get a fiddle on loan, even a fancy Italian. Good point !
Violadamore Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Says here that the violin made for Stern in 1994 sold for $130K at Tarisio in 2003. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Zygmuntowicz , so the price isn't outrageous. Given the reviews of Dylana playing hers however, one wonders why she is selling it, and hopes the reasons are only happy ones.
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